like literally too, 20k films at let's say 30m average is 400+ continuous, unbroken days worth of content

and I assume this was just for content from Reality Labs. god knows how much other torrenting was done outside of Reality Labs IP

Yeah but some folks are just data collectors/hoarders. It isn't about consumption.

I think they are training ai porn so ... this should be a lawsuit

Around that same time my own brother was working at the second largest record label in the world and their own servers were hacked and serving about 1/3 of global warez downloads.

Law enforcement didn’t get involved and nobody did shit about it.

Not even the last time that company was massively hacked. ;)

I mean basically that. If you hit a corporate IP, unless they have flow level logging or you have very extensive timestamps, then the game ends, company says they've enacted new training or controls, but they can't identify a specific person and it's not their fault.

Essentially - this is not a suggestion.

Residential ip's map to a specific person, and it's a lot harder for them to deflect and say I'm not responsible for my own Internet connection

It had to be more complicated than simple copyright infringement for the cops to get involved.

This is crazy. Worked at a national ISP/telecom and one of the directors openly had a seedbox and was torrenting massive amount of things. Chalked it up as the poors being held to different standards as this person had a close relationship with one of the executives.

Mate, I got rejected by Cambridge University.

I've lived in and around Cambridge for a very long time now. I've met a lot of Cambridge undergrads and graduates. Let me tell you: they are a mixed bag.

Don't misunderstand me: there are some very smart people at Cambridge University. Very smart indeed. And I think if you took any cohort from Cambridge Uni versus a similar cohort from another university you'd certainly find that, against most universities, the Cambridge cohort would be smarter on average. In fact the place is genuinely awash with very smart people literally everywhere.

But that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of people that went to Cambridge who clearly found a way to blag their way through the interview process that may not have been particularly closely correlated with their intellect. The same will be true of Meta, Google, etc. I swear, the interview processes at these companies are probably more of a sop to the egos of company leadership and people who already work there than they are any more effective at filtering down to good talent than less byzantine and overwrought hiring processes.

You just have to make your peace with it.

I worked there for years. I assure you, based on my experience, that there are a lot of dumb people there making > $500k/year.

This person is supposedly an executive. I doubt most executive could pass an FAANG technical interview.

They are, they probably just did slightly better at regurgitating leetcode problems than you

Did you apply for the VR porn training team?

It’s a massive company, with more than 75k employees. At that scale you have to have a lot of dumb people

I wouldn’t, lack of moral fiber is a key factor they look for

It's even worse that they overpay people who do this type of thing while at work.

How is their network security that lax? I feel like if I tried run a torrent at work, netops would be hunting my ass down immediately.

Just tell yourself that they rejected you because they thought you had too strong a moral compass and you wouldn't click with the company's overall lack of ethics

Does anyone honestly believe that Zuck doesn't have his own history with filesharing? Any computer nerd from that time would have deep knowledge of filesharing.

Who'd have thought a Meta exec would be arrogant enough to assume they can get away with this (!!). /s

Why was torrenting needed anyway? Meta could’ve easily reached out to adult media providers to work on VR headset compatibility under an NDA. Or hired a third party contractor to do it.

What is the moral difference between training on porn vs other genres of media?

I suspect their goal is to train a model for detecting adult material, so that they can block it, which isn't necessarily an amoral goal

Fantastic, so we win either way

They downloaded pdfs (shock and horror) to create and publish the first open weights LLM

Your ethics shouldn't be dictated by US copyright law

That's a lot of ifs. Equally likely that the guy was just running a seedbox.

Don't know how they're keeping up with the plot like that.

I've heard the same about pirated software, people who have downloaded thousands of programs. People are strange.

umm it’s called archiving, thank you very much.

> I don't know a single company where an executive would be downloading training data themselves.

Maybe an ethically bankrupt company with a "move fast and break things" ethos looking for exactly the plausible deniability your comment hints at?

Can’t you guess?

What cases are you talking about? My general understanding is that if the VPN provider does not keep any logs, all that is left is timing / bandwidth correlation. If the endpoint you are connecting to isn't compromised and you connect to a high traffic node wouldn't this be essentially impossible? Unless you do some user error stuff like logging into accounts tied to your public persona?

What’s the argument if it’s on your Home internet?

Depends on the VPN. Mullvad account don’t have a username tied to you.

In the UK you get a stern letter from your ISP and that's it.

Company I work for got sued because someone filled out a form to get contacted, got a phone call as is expected after filling out said form, then sued because they're on the do not call list. Why did you fill out the form then?

Sure, that's plausible... a facebook exec so dumb that they're using their personal ISP connection to run a VPN for others, and even dumber that they don't notice or don't care about a massive amount of torrent traffic through that VPN.

It's not really a VPN for piracy purposes unless it's a commercial, no-log VPN. Since when a VPN is used to move the point at which traffic enters the internet, the owner of the VPN exit will be held to account.

They can try to claim they were running a "private" VPN and gave random people (from reddit and discord) internet access through it. They can try to claim they don't keep logs. Meanwhile, for a facebook VP with suspected activity tied to facebook corporate, the rightsholder will subpoena every digital device in the person's home, depose all their family and close friends, subpoena their facebook email...

Are you confusing Tor with a VPN? With a VPN the IP is a commercial server run by the VPN provider, and there's usually just one hop (you run an encrypted connection between yourself and the VPN provider that all your traffic is routed over, then the VPN provider makes outgoing connections on your behalf). You're relying on the VPN provider's promise to not log customer connections, but if they are honest, all connections seem like they're coming from the VPN provider and aren't traceable beyond that.

With Tor, you connect to a random Tor node (which may be another residential computer), which connects to a node in the middle, which connects to an exit node, which forwards your requests on to their final destination. All connections look like they come from the exit node, which might be someone's residential IP.

Read to the end. It isn't really clear how much causality can be inferred from the hours after thing.

That's a very dedicated kid.

Backdoored dad's work computer, how diabolical. ;)

Read the book, you will never trust facebook again. (if you did before)

I'd put good money on him thinking the odds of him getting caught were negligible.