decimalenough
9 hours ago
Here's a zoomable 3D model of the world's busiest train station, Shinjuku in Tokyo:
https://satoshi7190.github.io/Shinjuku-indoor-threejs-demo/
3.6 million passengers per day. Wikipedia:
The main East Japan Railway Company (JR East) station and the directly adjacent private railways have a total of 35 platforms, an underground arcade, above-ground arcade and numerous hallways with another 17 platforms (52 total) that can be accessed through hallways to five directly connected stations without surfacing outside. The entire above/underground complex has well over 200 exits.
seabass-labrax
an hour ago
Is this actually to scale? If so, do the vertical moving dashed lines depict inclined lifts or escalators? Because they very steep when you compare them to other metro escalators, such as those in the Brussels Metro's Porte de Hal / Hallepoort station[1], which seem closer to 50° from horizontal.
[1]: http://estacions.albertguillaumes.cat/img/brusselles/porte_d...
numpad0
8 hours ago
Throwing in Japan into random topics in trains feel somewhat unfair. Most train fact sheets fail to include most Asian nations except Japan, often missing even Korea and Taiwan.
Commuter trains in many East/Southeast Asian cities like Shanghai has developed to levels comparable to Tokyo. Trains in some Central Asian cities such as Mumbai were also always notorious for congestions. I think those should also be considered more often and at greater depths, Fermi estimated if need be, than we would be just keep dropping random Shinjuku facts left and right.
decimalenough
6 hours ago
We have stats for India, and they're no match: Kolkata Howrah gets about 1M pax per day, Mumbai CST around 670k. Nothing to sneeze at, but still several million (!) less than Shinjuku.
China has numerous airport-sized stations that handle huge volumes of long-distance passengers, but I'm not aware of any single commuter hub remotely the size of Shinjuku. Partly this is because of the economic system: Chinese trains are all state-run and centralized, while a large part of why Shinjuku is so busy is that it's a hub for numerous private railways as well.
dmoy
an hour ago
> I'm not aware of any single commuter hub remotely the size of Shinjuku
There certainly isn't one that does the volume of passengers. Shanghai Hongqiao or Beijing South are probably busiest, and they're 3-4x less passengers than Shinjuku.
> Partly this is because of the economic system: Chinese trains are all state-run and centralized, while a large part of why Shinjuku is so busy is that it's a hub for numerous private railways as well.
I think another part of it is also size of network. China is a freaking huge country. It's got like 10-15x as much high speed rail track compared to Japan. It's a lot more distributed.
kaladin-jasnah
7 hours ago
Is India considered central Asia? I've always seen it referred to as south Asia, and former Soviet countries like Kazakhstan have been referred to as central Asia. I think India is east of these "central Asian" countries. Perhaps this is all a bit of pedantry.
numpad0
6 hours ago
I was mistaken, I meant to say South Asia. Central was more like north of India/China...
kaladin-jasnah
5 hours ago
Ah, I see. I was curious since I guess you can refer to it as central Asia since it's west of east Asia, haha.
bowsamic
6 hours ago
I’m really impressed at how usable that visualisation is on mobile. It’s also really great aesthetically. Japanese artists can still do the best sci fi designs about
raverbashing
3 hours ago
Yeah that makes Exit 8 looks like Child's play
Saint-Lazare being the most complex one that I saw personally (got lost, I mean)
giveita
8 hours ago
3.6m is crazy. That must be a decent % of the entire Tokyo pop.
tkiolp4
8 hours ago
If only 1% give money to homeless people, that’s… a good place to beg for money. I would probably make more there than what i make at my fancy software engineering job (100K before taxes per year):
- 36000 people
- let’s say each give 10 cents ($)
- that’s $3600 per day
- if you beg 8h per day, that’s $1200/day
- begging mon to fri means $24000 per month (tax free)
lm28469
7 hours ago
With 28800s in 8 hours that's more than 1 donation per second during these 8 hours. Also you now have 36000 10ct coins, that's more than 100kg in coins to move every day
apexalpha
8 hours ago
This assumes there is a central entrance you can situate yourself as a beggar.
In reality there are probably 10+ entrances.
Thorrez
6 hours ago
> The entire above/underground complex has well over 200 exits.
initramfs
7 hours ago
very unrealistic because many train riders don't carry coins, nor will use a contactless payment to pay a random begger, even if they see them on the platform every day.
Mona4000
4 hours ago
Begging is illegal in Japan.
smcl
6 hours ago
This is hilarious, thank you