I honestly could care less about the lie. I'm more offended about the upside down flag because, like the other person replied, it's not in fact an appropriate use. But I guess that automatically enrolls me into the racist misogynist group of people to simply disagree on the proper use of an upside down flag.
It is a perfectly appropriate use if you want to symbolize the country is in distress.
Do you get so upset about the flag when it's used as napkins, plates, thongs, or toilet paper?
Yes, surprisingly my views are consistent.
"The U.S. Flag Code (4 U.S.C. § 8(a)) states that the flag 'should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.'"
Treating institutional or policy disagreements as equivalent to "extreme danger to life or property" is an insane stretch of the meaning of those words. But in the post-modern world every word means whatever the person thinks it means, so it's not surprising to see people able to reconcile that in their minds.
The flag code is a suggestion. Her choice of symbolism has no requirement to be grounded in that. So arguing about the wording is meaningless.
When did I say there was a "requirement." Yes, anyone can do anything, but you moved the goal post because that's not what we were talking about. I'm simply staying that I personally find it offensive because I think its a gross misuse of the flag and then quoted the code under which I base that judgement on. Placing the American flag upside down has a documented, historical reason for it, enshrined in the flag code. You can't just pretend that doesn't exist. You can choose to blatantly ignore that and flip it for some other reason, but that doesn't at all negate my argument.
I'm really curious to get your take on how that makes me a racist misogynist though.
I don't see your posts about Trump or the many people at his rallies blatantly ignoring the code.
I do see this woman wears a hijab.
Just a simple deduction.
P.S. The culture warriors on X that made this go viral to begin with are very much racist and misogynist. So it is a safe bet to assume you, who is posting the story here, are also one.
I posted this here because it had to do with AI deepfakes being used in politics to lie to the masses. Extremely relevant to this website. Someone wearing the American flag as underwear? I'd be impressed if you can find a single submission on this website where that was the topic.
Besides, I'm neither a Trump supporter nor a supporter of the fascists posing as communists. I believe late stage capitalism is basically broken and needs regulation, that immigration should be encouraged through legal means, that people can do whatever they like with their body, etc. I wouldn't even know what to label my political beliefs as now. Some weird combination of libertarian, classical liberalism, and an anarchist bent. I am, however, a veteran and served my country for many years so that (assuming you're American) you can freely call me names on the internet (unlike our friends across the pond).
Regardless, tt sounds more like you're just predisposed to label people based on a broad set of unreliable attributes. Which is exactly what the racists and misgoynists you seem to hate do. You should probably stop that if you're going to have any sort of moral ground to criticize them from.
> I am, however, a veteran and served my country for many years so that (assuming you're American) you can freely call me names on the internet (unlike our friends across the pond).
No recent military action undertaken by the US has had any effect on free speech at home, except possibly negatively if you bundle it with the various laws that came about after 9/11. Likewise, no military action is linked to the state of free speech in the UK, it's just how things have worked out culturally and socially. Nothing wrong with serving, but you didn't get to go and defend American ideals particularly.
> Flying an upside-down flag is a perfectly patriotic thing to do
It is a really dumb virtue-signaling protest thing. In fact, it has nothing to do with the actual "distress signal" that it is meant to be.
> America is very much in distress
But you don't invert the flag when your nation is in distress. You invert the flag when your vessel is in distress. Inverted flag is a 9-1-1 call to all who can see it. It indicates immediate and extreme danger to life, limb, or property.
Furthermore, it is not up to us dumb citizens to determine when our entire nation is in distress. Honestly, our nation is bigger than you or me, and she can fend for herself on her own merits, without us telling her how she should feel. If "all America is in distress" then who will come and save her, huh? We are sovereign and that means we take care of our own messes, and solve our own problems!
Let's leave the inverted flag for its true meaning, which is individual or vessel-wide distress. Anything else is just posturing and performative slacktivism.
Sorry you don't understand the concept of symbolism.
> Furthermore, it is not up to us dumb citizens to determine when our entire nation is in distress. Honestly, our nation is bigger than you or me, and she can fend for herself on her own merits, without us telling her how she should feel. If "all America is in distress" then who will come and save her, huh? We are sovereign and that means we take care of our own messes, and solve our own problems!
Nonsensical.
> Let's leave the inverted flag for its true meaning, which is individual or vessel-wide distress. Anything else is just posturing and performative slacktivism.
Running for office is slacktivism now? You gotta try harder to justify your fake outrage, this is just lazy.
