I’ve driven Subaru, jeep, Mazda, Chevy, ford, Toyota and ridden in the passenger of mercedes all in the past year.

Please name some cars that have standout bad/good infotainment because none of those stood out either way.

Or at least since you’re griping about what you think is a particularly bad one, name three good ones.

Btw if you've got eyesight it means you can buy comma.ai (not cheap) which is after market not quite self driving so it steers and gas/brakes for you.

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Interesting how Infotainment crosses into EyeSight for you though. That's not at all what that means.

And yes it beeps and you can't turn the beeping off completely. It's supposed to annoy you into using the blinkers properly. Different cars/model years seem to have different levels of annoyingness in the actual beep and different volume settings available though.

My (also 2020) never beeps when EyeSight can't see the lanes, whether its steering or not. It beeps when you cross a line without blinking or you're crossing the lines and would soon be driving on the shoulder/into the trees. It does sometimes have issues where it beeps a bit too early, i.e. it seems the calculations from the visuals are a bit off in certain situations.

And then there's the unexpectedly high cost if you ever need to replace your windshield.

do you enjoying having to accept the popup disclaimer literally every single time you start the car? i sure do, love it, what a UX

Can't you turn eyesight off?

As a 25 year Subaru driver, it's a bit of one and a bit of two. I have a safe ride in the winter and do a full Costco run, and I can book it down curvy dirt roads at unsafe speeds to indulge my inner rally car driver.

I was actually shocked to find that Subaru in the US was this kind of safe, maybe outdoorsy brand. I had never seen anything but Imprezas inspired by WRC before I got here. Only boy racers drove them where I grew up.

Well I for one got so used to the CVT it's not even funny any more. Every time we rent a car we get a random non-CVT car and the acceleration behavior is just so funky in comparison, I can't stand it any more.

in theory EVs would be ideal for off-roading. Low end torque and the ability to control the motors independently. I think something like the Mercedes portal axles attached to electric motors would be amazing.

Well, historically Subaru hits a different market segment than Toyota/Honda.

This curious bit is that it was 'You want something between a Toyota/Honda and a Lexus/Acura, but closer to the capability of a Jeep'. Where it's more curious, is that the modern Subaru hybrids are actually better at off-roading than the new Jeep Cherokee hybrid.

Why is that? Well at least IMO it's cause Subaru sticks to their guns, their hybrid system sticks to what they have always tried to do versus the Jeep doing, at least AFAIK, the same sort of 'AWD' hybrid setup of most hybrids, where the rear wheels are electric only and you have to wait for the computer to decide to apply Any power.

Interestingly, The closest hybrid AWD design I'm aware of to what Subaru is doing, is Ford with the AWD HF55 on the Maverick, in that case they are doing it to also help make sure it can meet the needs for 4K towing.

It's not as efficient, but it is at last consistent from a branding execution strategy. Definitely moreso than Jeep who has watered down everything they sell so much it's... who knows anymore.

To be fair, the Subaru Solterra is a rebadged Toyota bz4x, so I suppose you basically are buying a Toyota?

Nowadays, a Subaru is just a cheaper Toyota.