piterrro
a day ago
Take a stepback and understand why standup was invented in the first place. The reason was: information flow bottleneck - with agents information flow should not be a bottleneck because at any given time the agent can grab as much context as they need, including talking to other agents (althought that nit necessary imo since agents should work visibly through issues and PRs)
stillpointlab
a day ago
One useful part of standup is to elicit connections where one wasn't expected. For example, someone might say "I've been working on X" and another person might say "Oh, I worked on X a couple of days ago and you should know ..."
It is an opportunity for things people didn't realize they needed to communicate to get stated publicly in a way that can create connections neither side would have initiated.
necovek
a day ago
That's why people "meet".
However, a "standup" was invented to solve a particular problem: people, in isolation, do not always understand that they are stuck, and talking it through lets fellow humans identify their challenge.
The stand up part is mostly to encourage keeping it concise and short, so you only focus on what is actionable between all participants (waiting on a review, I am looking at this for the 3rd day and I think I am ok, anyone wants to brainstorm this...).
With agents, they get similarly stuck (completely or in a loop), and with each keeping a different context at any given moment, they might still be able to help each other.
Obviously, their memories are not like humans' (there is no "I touched that two months ago, let's discuss after"), but there might be a different sweet spot where having them sync regularly (every 1M tokens instead of daily?) might be useful as they are also parallelizing work.
spacebanana7
a day ago
Couldn’t the same be said for skilled humans working together on an effective team?
piterrro
18 hours ago
It could, that's why there are teams that don't have a standup and work very well (I've been with both and I much prefer the ones that dont have a standup OR they meet on a standup to chit-chat and keep up the connections rather than discuss the actual work - simply because they have autonomy and can do it async)
ranguna
19 hours ago
Unfortunately I cannot peek at the brains of my fellow colleagues to have their context at any given time.
faithlv
17 hours ago
Yes it can, see Conway's Law.
newsicanuse
a day ago
no
darkwater
a day ago
Yes but good luck finding the skilled humans that do both things - developing and communicating - well. They do exist, but they are not so common.
eru
a day ago
No, why? Humans need time to get into concentration, and they aren't awake 24/7, and they can get distracted.