I don't know man, seems like a cool project and is open source. I guess he could have just sat on it and used for himself exclusively. It's auditable and totally fine for an open source project and nobody is forced to use it. It's free to use under the MIT license, what else can you really ask for.

The source is prominently linked: https://github.com/gloom-sh/gloomberb

> please don't write command line tools in non-compiled languages!

Around 40% of Linux CLI tools are written in interpreted languages.

I know where you're coming from. I've been worried about all the supply chain attacks on npm too. And I'm far from a security expert. However, if you're okay with installing binary packages via `curl somesite.com | sh` I don't think you are in a better position with regards to security.

And in the GitHub release page they include compiled binaries anyway... Why would you advertise `curl | bash` as a way to install if there's a binary available?!

Download it, put it wherever you like (probably `~/.local/bin/`) and you're good to use it.

Sometimes I truly wonder...

Agree. If you really want to know what's used here: probably uses bun single-file executables[0] so shouldn't clash with anything else on your system.

[0] https://bun.com/docs/bundler/executables

you can test it out with

  bunx gloomberb

disclaimer: I haven't seen the code

TS/JS is not the problem.

You can, and you should eject your dependencies and package them with your releases. And I don't understand why it's not a common practice.

You can even bundle your releases with a runtime, but that's not always the best solution. For something like this I'd actually prefer interpreted code I can inspect line by line rather than having a blob of unknown origin.

If you're gonna be particular about it, that's on you, dude. curl | bash is a stupid way to install software in the first place! But we're all lazy and it's too easy to just copy and paste that. If you're gonna be lazy about it, you don't get to complain about it. curl | less is right there!

In defense given the amount of web content being processed it makes a lot of sense to use JS and related tech. It's put to good use here.

A command line tool in a non-compiled language is still much better than an network-connected tool in a non-memory-safe language.

You can always bundle the runtime for interpreted languages and pretend it's compiled.

It does have a GitHub link where all these questions are answered: Claude-generated TypeScript slop. So no, you don't want to pipe this into your bash.

>> Related: please don't write command line tools in non-compiled languages!

... unless, of course, it's Perl. Right?

yeah! agree. this shity approach when user solves technical problems.

I really wish this was not the top comment on HN. It’s a cool project! Maybe try it??! Or just be silent!

100% agree. It's a fun name, but it ends up begging the comparison. The look and feel of it was an instant download for me. It's actually exactly what I want and even tried / failed to build on my own for years. I'll be supporting this project.

Yeah, I think a few of the widgets here are neat and useful. It's not a Bloomberg replacement, but it might be a good replacement for a few tabs? You could get the info elsewhere, but I like this presentation more.

Edit: Ah, they're offering a pro subscription. While I appreciate that cloud services aren't free, I'm not sure that I'm willing to pay to replace a few browser tabs. Not for me, but maybe for someone!

the name makes it seem like it only delivers bad news

ditch the name

explain where you got the data from

else this will just be bit of Bloomberg meme

Asked a dear friend in the finance industry what he thought about Bloomberg. He's the type of guy who uses these systems daily. Mostly paraphrasing:

  1) Bloomberg was lightyears ahead of anything else in the pre-internet days, so there's a lot of UI familiarity.

  2) Bloomberg's chat is important because, as a hedge fund or investment bank, the chat is how you buy and sell bonds. You agree to the trade in the chat, then tell the back office folks to execute the trade. Direct quote: "I'd wager 90% of the ~400 trillion in annual bond trading value happens over Bloomberg DM"

  3) Bloomberg is the biggest and best aggregator

> They're paying for the data source

Yup.

If you want fixed-income data, Bloomberg is the only shop on the street data-wise.

If you want other financial data, Bloomberg's fixed entry-point pricing tends to make more sense in terms of bang for buck than its competitors modular price sheets.

People saying Bloomberg is just about the chat are simply embarrassing themselves.

Look at the price sheets of Eikon, Factset, CapIQ etc. There is no such thing as a cheap "Bloomberg killer".

Quality data is expensive. So are the leased-lines it arrives at Bloomberg on. So is the data wrangling architecture.

> They're paying for the data source... and I don't think you have Bloomberg's connections.

We keep seeing hundreds of Bloomberg competitors mimicking the interface and they always forget that the chat (with the connections), data and the newsroom are the reasons why Bloomberg's network effect is close to impossible to break.

Using the Bloomberg Terminal is taught very early at colleges for any finance professional, which is how they get them as well.

To be fair, I don't see anywhere on this page where they try to suggest that this is competitive with a Bloomberg terminal.

Financial companies are cutting down on the amount associates can bill the firm for a $30 dinner, and the time before they can have the firm pay for a $30 car ride home. They definitely wouldn't pay for Bloomberg if it could be easily replaced.

Correct. Also, Bloomberg has messaging for traders that is actually an important network effect in certain domains.

Good thing they're not asking $31,980 per year for it then?

Also, and in addition, the value of the Bloomberg Terminal is not the UI, it is the consistency. You don't pay for an accelerator and a break pedal, you pay for the 100% guarantee to find them in the place >100k people have been trained to find them.

Many people pay the Bloomberg Terminal subscription ONLY for the chat. They don't use anything else from it.

Can't you just use a bunch of agents to extract financial statements from company websites the moment they are published? OK, no insider info but you can still do quick agentic fundamental analysis and decide which companies are interesting.

You're paying for direct lines to these firms. It's a big chat/social media platform. Combined with the data and news and you got yourself a hell of a platform

Some of us are just here for the æsthetics! Plus I already have the SEA100 "Centerboard" with chrome accents, and this will help complete the look.

actually a lot of data is not included in the standard bloomberg license and you have to pay extra (mostly passing through to the data vendors) to get access to it.

There is not a single reason for Bloomberg’s dominance but the one feature that keeps people on it is the chat.

does the author claim to be a bloomberg clone?

I mean look at the name... this seems more like a fun quip than a product. I'm over here basking in the glow of dem vibes.

it's a GUI and a TUI, pay attention to the screenshots

He created that company I believe. I interviewed at Godel long ago and would probably have received an offer but he was convicted during the interview process and they paused hiring.

People repeat this rhetoric all the time, but I promise you, finance professionals can and do easily migrate to other messaging platforms such as ICE chat. This isn't a moat for BBG

Fine, but I get to vibe next week's markdown editor.

A large amount of the value is that you aren't allowed in.

My observation is that finance and banking and corporate functions high enough up the ladder operate more like a clubhouse than cutthroat businesses. You’d think all you need to do is make a better interface, but if you’re not part of the club, you’re not doing the business (or even getting shot at it).

> Part of the moat is the data

Not particularly. I don’t think Bloomberg has any super-proprietary data. It’s more like Excel. There is a command or two that is so weirdly niche specific that some user somewhere really needs. And it has a social network.

Bloomberg, as it is, will probably work as long as humans are in the loop in trading financial assets.

Looks like Yahoo and the SEC for filings: https://github.com/gloom-sh/gloomberb/tree/cd82b5c61a8d0eb0d...

Was just about to ask on data sourcing, I imagine yfinance is used but can't really tell for anything else (like for prediction markets or news data).

Here's an article. Basically if your trading stocks no. If you are trading different instruments or want interaction with the money folks (connections) yes. https://financetracked.com/bloomberg-terminal

From it: "Bonds and Fixed Income: It provides the best data for interest rates and debt markets. Global Economics: It easily connects data from different countries, such as currency rates and government debt. The Chat Room: The messaging system is the industry standard. If you want to talk to the biggest players in the market, you often need to be on Bloomberg."

Bloomberg Terminal costs ~$24K per user per year, so the fact that people are paying for it implies it offers at least that much value. As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, most of that value lies in the data sources.

It is becoming very hard not to use an LLM. I have been working on a project all this year. I started doing everything by hand, and I am using LLMs a little bit more every day. I suppose we want to use projects that were crafted with care, whether or not LLMs were used. But it is not easy to figure that out. It reminds me. 30 years ago, before code formatters were popular, you could tell good code just by looking at how carefully formatted it was.

and you think Bloomberg engineers dont use AI heavily?

my first thoughts too.

same and for some reason people are downvoting. why would we use vibecoded stuff with sensitive information?

How much intent can you ascribe to any of this?

Yeah, looks totally broken on my machine too.

How well do you think their terminal works if they couldn't even spend the time to clean up their vibe coded website?

Looks fine on my end (Firefox).

what platform is that? looks fine on mine

Gloom Harder?

looks fine on my machine

Any "TUI" you've seen in the past few years is 100% vide-coded slop.

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Why do you keep making new [something]moonx accounts?