Could you explain more about what "straightening the neck" entails in terms of exercise? I'm interested.

As someone with both as well, yeah they are there but really they don't bother me.

I cannot change them so I don't worry about them, they are just little my little floating jelly blobs friends that visit when I am at my computer.

Same, tinnitus and floaters. And the number of others with both makes me wonder if they are correlated.

I've lived with my floaters for twenty years or more, but sometime on a recent holiday the biggest one moved slightly to obscure the central vision on one eye much more often. Now when a floater in the other eye drifts onto the central area, I just can't focus. I have to flick my eyes to the side hundreds of times a day, and it's annoying enough that I'm considering a vitrectomy.

I had floaters for years, they slowly disappeared. Occasionally start coming back again and disappear. When they disappear, I initially kinda miss them, because I start using them as stopwatch. Just spent 5 mins checking; I don't have any right now. I really think I would enjoy having one or two of different sizes and speeds, permanently. I guess that's just wishing for a superpower.

Have both. Also had floaters since at least teen years. Neither bother me substantially although I think I have lost most of 8 kHz volume in my left ear and have tinnitus that I think matches that frequency.

You know what does bother me?

The scintillating scotoma as well as retinal migraine symptoms, the former starting in middle school and latter in my 20s. Fortunately neither is frequent now but damn I used to break into a cold sweat with either and to this day am a bit reluctant to drive because of both.

That stinks, sorry to hear.

It's mentioned when tinnitus comes up, or when dark mode isn't available. Couple months ago, someone recommended a supplement that it seems could easily(?) be DIY'd in case it's snake oil (even if it's more expensive, then they don't "win"!) :)

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

Start eating pineapple, you will be surprised of the effect on the floaters.

Anecdotal but I heard some people with autoimmune issues have their floaters go away when they change their diet in a way that improves the autoimmune symptoms.

I have both as well. Floaters are mildly annoying, but at least when you lie in bed at night you don't see them in the dark.

also have floaters. there have been moments in life where i overfixated on them for a month or two at a time and would think theyre getting worse. and then i would get busy with something (like having a child) and i would forget about this problem entirely and then randomly remember they exist. the brain is very good at ignoring things.

I've had them all my life. I remember watching a some video a few years back that said they're more noticeable against a bright/white background, which checked out with my past experiences. And judging by your skiing comment, probably for yours as well!

I have the same problem. Some good mitigations are dark mode on the computer and using very dark, yellow/brown alpine sunglasses in bright sun.

Amateur musician with mild/moderate high frequency tinnitus here. I was treated with exposure therapy, and while I hear the sound (less now than before) it doesn't bother me any more. I would recommend a book called "Living Well With Tinnitus". Good luck!

I remember about twenty years ago reading a method on a forum somewhere for dealing with tinnitus to create temporary relief. Many folks claimed to experience relief from trying it. Maybe it will help you?

It was text back then but nowadays there are videos. Here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YyT9ZwWy5Jc

>tinitus sure as hell isn't my friend.

what the author is advocating for "befriending tinnitus" is a well established form of therapy (Acceptance and Commitment/ACT), it's generally very effective because avoidance or compensatory behavior ("trying to make the tinnitus go away / distract myself") is teaching the brain that tinnitus is a problem and is only going to increase the kind of alertness that leads people to focus on their tinnitus. It's the same way with insomnia, people who try to produce sleep efforts tend to worsen their insomnia, you need to befriend being awake.

There's a big psychological component to tinnitus that sustains itself because people view tinnitus as a problem, that's often larger than the physical impairment.

I developed tinnitus in my right ear about 5 years ago. I remember exactly when it started. I was welding up a tailpipe repair on my car, and in the next bay over my brother was running the lawnmower to adjust the carbs. The exhaust was basically blasting directly into my right ear from a distance of about 10ft. I don't recall it feeling excessively loud at the time, but afterwards for about a two years I had really bad occasional ringing and occasionally I could hear "rushing" sounds very loudly.

About 3 years ago I used a borescope and some tweezers as a sketchy endoscope and pulled out a hair that had somehow wedged itself in my ear canal. I don't recall how I figured out this plan, but it worked. The tinnitus has never returned since then.

I have no idea whether there's any causal connections between any of these events. It's a big mystery. But TBH I don't really care that much, I'm just super glad it's gone.

Very similar to my experience. I just woke up with it one day in my early 30s.

It drove me a bit mad at first, I wanted someone to 'cure' it and make it go away. Then I tried all sorts of things, I narrowed down the frequency (IIRC it's 13.5kHz) and tried masking by playing that in my right ear. I tried white noise. I tried 'notching' all my mp3s to remove that frequency band. I don't think any of it really helped.

But somewhere towards the end of all that I guess I started to accept it. It's here now because of this thread and sometimes it's present at night, especially if I drink too much, but most of the time I'm just not conscious of it any more. Occasionally I think it's actually gone-gone, but then if I 'look' for it then it usually returns.

The only way (for me) to proceed was to zen it out. Accept this is how it is and likely how it will be forever and suddenly it's just not very important.

Though I acknowledge that some folks likely have a harder time with that due to relative severity of the condition.

Holy cow, that's a small baby! Congratulations on being alive!

It looks like good old fashioned jQuery, so I'm surprised your browser doesn't like it, but it looks like the direct link for the video inside the iframe is https://iframe.mediadelivery.net/embed/570723/69b827da-0ce9-...

Crazy thought but given that you have a pure sine frequency, maybe it would be possible to listen to an out of phase version of it to cancel. Same principle as noise cancelling except the noise is purely internal. Though I guess phase might drift over time making it not work. Still would be interesting to hear your results with this, success or not.

Any in-ear headphones can cause ear infections from prolonged use, the airtight seal makes for a nice humid environment bacteria like.

The solution is to not wear them as long, especially right after a shower or the like, when there is extra moisture in your ear.

Alternatively you can put alcohol in your ears to kill the bacteria, sort of like you’d do with mouthwash. Any pharmacy will sell over the counter ear drops with alcohol, meant for drying out swimmers ear. You’d have to keep doing it once every week or two, but it would keep the infection away.

I’ve always wondered if it was my AirPods causing the tinnitus (or my acids reflux). Maybe I should give them a break and see what happens.

I got mine too after an infection.

What's weird is sometimes I wake up and then all of the sudden I hear it starting.

While I agree that the brain can generally block it out once you accept it, I'll add that sometimes (for some people) it goes from a constant tone to intermittent chirping. The first time mine layered in a "typewriter tinnitus"[1] I wondered if I was picking up electronic interference in my head, which is a bit more difficult to tune out.

[1] https://youtu.be/bWPuYol1Tjo

> there is precedent for this, you don't really feel your heart beating or hear your blood rushing most of the time. the brain learns which signals aren't important to you

At the risk of a kind of odd tangent, I had a very weird experience a couple years ago where I woke up one morning and my entire body felt like it was "external" to my feeling, for lack of a better description. Getting up and walking around made me feel queasy because I could feel everything in my abdomen sloshing around, and lying sideways made me feel what I assume is how claustrophobic people feel in tight spaces because it felt like there were multiple surfaces around me instead of just the one I was lying on. I had severe brain fog to go along with it; the words coming out of my mouth felt like what I wanted to say, but it didn't feel like I was choosing them; normally my speech feels almost like a distillation of my thought process, but this felt like they were just spontaneously coming out without any thought process to generate them. My wife (still my fiancee at the time, but we had been together for several years) apparently couldn't tell anything different about me outwardly and said she wouldn't have been able to tell anything was wrong other than what I was telling her. The sensation didn't last all day, but after it left I had an odd numbness everywhere. The numbness was gone by the next morning too, but a couple weeks later the brain fog and numbness came back (albeit not quite as strong as it had been originally), and it's only been gradually fading away since then.

The experience (and the later experience that's still going on for a while now) has made me realize just how much my perception previously had been, let's say, "curated" by mind. One thing I've noticed is that even when the physical sensation isn't present, the "reaction" to the sensation will still occur. For example, I remember a time when I was shoveling large amounts of snow, and I suddenly noticed that I was taking large amounts of time between each shovelful, which had been happening instinctively due to how much I needed to catch my breath, but even then I still didn't physically feel tired or winded. Plenty of times I've woken up somewhat earlier than usual and tried to get back to sleep but not been able to, and eventually I realized there must be reason, so I'd have to actively think about whether I was thirsty or hungry or needed to use the bathroom, and then suddenly realized that one of them was actually the case. Pain is one of the weirdest cases, even with my numbness being a lot more mild than it was for the first year or so, because I still have the reflex that I'd expect from a sudden severe pain even if I don't feel it nearly as strongly.

I don't know for sure how much of this generalizes to everyone else, but the experience has definitely made me reconsider some cognitive theories that didn't seem plausible to me before. The idea that our brain basically tricks us into "remembering" feeling something as the reason for us taking a certain action seems pretty consistent with how I was would act the same way in circumstances where I normally would expect to have sensations causing me to act that way without being able to actually feel the sensation. In some ways the philosophical idea of consciousness being an illusion don't seem as crazy to me as before either, because it's clear that the reality I experience is only perceived through the lens of my biology, and I can't come up with a strong argument against the idea that my sense of "self" is just an evolutionary hack for handling some parts of my body (with the parts not benefiting from conscious management being actively hidden from whatever part of me feels like "me").

I've had it all my life. I'm 55. Mine is bearable and generally I don't notice it. Mine was caused by "glue ear" or more likely the operations to "cure it", which caused ear drum scarring and what not. I don't think that glue ear is a modern diagnosis anymore. Mind you doctors were only beginning to not advise people to smoke for their health in the early '70s.

I know what a variety of tinnitus is like (I've never known anything else) and I'm sure that other varieties can be horrendous. In my case time does not help.

Perhaps we ought to insist on a tinnitus spectrum, with multiple dimensions and some TLAs. I don't think that advice from a single data point is very helpful, or being charitable: annecdata. I'm glad it disappeared for OP.

Tinnitus ranges from, say, me (I'll live) through yourself (fuck! but I'll live) to committing suicide in despair at the extreme end.

> It's unfortunate and surprising that there's still no effective drug, though lidocaine does, in fact, work. (Very temporarily, sadly.)

There's some research, but yeah, I'm surprised that something that affects so many people and in some cases affect them very severely isn't receiving more attention.

At least there are things one can do immediately after the fact to limit nerve damage (applying intratympanic steroids etc), but even these things are often missed and haven't become part of routine procedure yet.

And I'm very curious why Shore's device is still stuck in FDA hell while the (from what I've heard) inferior version, Lenire, passed a long time ago.

30 or so years here, still 5/10 after all these years. I don't let it bother me for the most part, but it'll certainly never be anything but a negative thing.

I'll be honest, this is the first time I'm hearing "just change your attitude towards it" though. It's like the terrible advice someone with depression gets- just be happy!

I mean people with tinnitus can choose to get angry about it or they can... change their attitude toward it.

I have it. I've changed my attitude toward it and made it my friend. I don't really know what else to tell you, but if you want to, the way is open for you. Or you can continue to see it as an aversive thing, and it will continue to be so.

Meh. My tinnitus is a result of high-frequency hearing loss. The hearing loss is not noticeable - maybe I can't hear something just below what dogs can hear? - but the tinnitus is noticeable.

I have no idea how it happened - I never used headphones much, I don't work around machines or jet engines, etc. One doctor said it's just wear and tear.

It doesn't bother me though. I figure that nobody has a full stack of bricks when it comes to health, and here's one of the places I'm short. Compared to some of the places where other folks have health problems, this is not a biggie.

There's surgery...

I haven't used this for years and I don't know if it helped me or not, but the below is a bash script which will duplicate a directory of mp3s and 'notch' everything using the linux command line tool 'sox'. You'll have to figure out the frequency band you want to remove, it's currently set to remove approximately a half-octave notch around my target frequency, 13.5kHz. Sox can do lots of file formats but you'll have to adapt the script if you want anything but mp3s altered. And no I'm not 100% sure why I felt the need to multi-process enable it...

  #!/bin/bash

  HIGHFREQ=16000
  LOWFREQ=-11500

  if [[ -z $1 || -z $2 ]] ; then
      echo "Usage: " $0 " <InputDir> <OutputDir>"
      exit
  fi

  OLDDIR=$1
  NEWDIR=$2

  echo pushd $OLDDIR
  pushd $OLDDIR

  TEMP=0
  BUFSIZE=1024000
  CONCURRENCY=1
  IFS=$(echo -en "\n\b")

  for file in `find |grep mp3`; do
      mkdir -p $NEWDIR/"`dirname \"$file\"`"
      TEMP=$(($TEMP + 1))
      TEMP=$(($TEMP % $CONCURRENCY))
      echo $TEMP $(basename $file)
      if [ "$TEMP" = "0" ]; then
          sox --multi-threaded --buffer $BUFSIZE --temp $NEWDIR/"`dirname \"$file\"`" -V2 "$file" -C -0.1 "$NEWDIR/$file" gain -hen sinc $HIGHFREQ$LOWFREQ
          wait
      else
          sox --multi-threaded --buffer $BUFSIZE --temp $NEWDIR/"`dirname \"$file\"`" -V2 "$file" -C -0.1 "$NEWDIR/$file" gain -hen sinc $HIGHFREQ$LOWFREQ &
      fi
  done
  wait
  popd

  cp -R --update=none $OLDDIR/* $NEWDIR

i love mynoise. Stephane's work is great

This is a funny but sad coincidence! I'll chime in the same as others, I've had tinnitus for 20+ years and I know it is all due to one event. Somedays if I am tired or stressed it gets worse, and then some days I have so much going on I don't think about it (much). But sometimes when I have a calm moment or if I am on vacation trying to relax, I really have no idea what silence sounds like anymore.