I Wanted to Own the Harness. Then Codex Desktop Won

19 pointsposted 8 hours ago
by calmhive

24 Comments

throwup238

6 hours ago

Twenty years ago this would have been “I Wanted to Own My VIM config, Then [Insert IDE] Won”.

The perennial question is, have you gotten any actual work done or are you now just configuring Codex Desktop?

> Then the seams became my job.

Has Codex started overusing “seam” too? I thought that was a Claude-ism.

Really the AI generated title image should have given it away. Shame on me I guess.

preordained

6 hours ago

> Has Codex started overusing “seam” too? I thought that was a Claude-ism

Honestly, it's pretty good about this. Its terms are pretty fitting. Load-bearing, seam, etc. I'd actually say these were nice gifts to our developer parlance.

Nevermark

6 hours ago

These words can definitely help in isolation. But I have noticed that when discussing anything complicated, the sum is far more ambiguous than the parts:

"fold", "honest", "answers", "pins", "frame", "hinge", "ground", "world", "mint", "captured", “trace”, “door”, ...

The increase in indirect references, tendency to "describe, not show", "indirectly reference, not show", and high density of uncommon metaphors, can leave some of Claude's longer and more complex responses impossible to parse.

I have fought back with some, but not total success.

gjvr

5 hours ago

Yep.

And, the following made me smile. Not just the em-dash.

Prompt: can you please verify that your proposals do not increase the complexity of the design and are really needed?

Response:

No—the earlier proposals were not all justified. The review found avoidable complexity and I revised Questions 62–66 accordingly:

vardalab

5 hours ago

Sol 5.6 loves seams. I never heard the word mentioned until Sol 5.6 before that it never came up. Now everything is the seam, lol. At least it doesn't bear any load.

steve-atx-7600

5 hours ago

Maybe I’m missing something. How is codex desktop more feature rich that Claude desktop? Aren’t they about the same now? I actually found codex desktop cloud mode to be more difficult to use in the codex desktop vs Claude because i have to create a new “environment” per GitHub repo in the same org at work.

indigodaddy

5 hours ago

What constitutes a new environment in Codex desktop? Is that like a new project? Kind of feels like a good idea because a different repo can have different dependencies and venvs etc?

indigodaddy

6 hours ago

Did Codex Desktop also help write this article?

triyambakam

6 hours ago

More than help. It certainly has a uniquely identifiable voice

user

6 hours ago

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calmhive

7 hours ago

What's your setup? Tmux and cli? Anyone doing fully in the cloud, or using a managed service like superconductor/humanlayer.. or like amp orbs

knighthacker

7 hours ago

I'm 100% fully in the cloud and strongly recommend it to others. I'm building (AQ.dev) so I'm obviously biased, but almost every single one of our customers ends up bringing their own VMs to the platform instead of using the Managed solution. There's definitely a pull in that direction in my opinion.

sharts

6 hours ago

What clouds exist? And are they all electron?

nitroedge

6 hours ago

Is the voice support now really as good as you describe?

user

8 hours ago

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sgammon

6 hours ago

omp mentioned :)

latchkey

6 hours ago

i was avoiding the harness wars, but a friend recommended it and i just switched to it from codex... and i feel like i just leveled up. what sells it for me is that it uses LSP's to edit the files. so much faster and more accurate edits.

use it with ACP through Zed and you get rid of all the TUI graphics nonsense...

spiderfarmer

6 hours ago

Is it me or did Codex become a lot slower since about a month or so?

steve-atx-7600

5 hours ago

Ive been using 5.6 sol xhigh everyday since it launched. It does feel slower than it used to be. Fast mode seems useless now - burns through tokens without a noticeable speed gain for me now.

MarkWayneNewton

8 hours ago

If you need to layout your text like that just to make it seem big maybe you don't really have that much to say.

Nevermark

3 hours ago

A human wrote this. The gratuitous critique, devoid of any substantive relevance, gives them away.