gcanyon
3 days ago
> The increased nuclear mass causes orbiting electrons to speed up to a significant fraction of the speed of light, where the rules of Einstein’s theory of relativity are important.
Fun fact: this is why mercury is liquid at room temperature. Its inner electrons move at close to 60% the speed of light, pulling in its outer electrons more tightly, making it harder for it to bond and be solid. (I am not a physicist, don't rely on my statements for your space ship design)
sigmoid10
3 days ago
I guess the more interesting question is why this doesn't happen for neighbouring elements in the periodic table?
Laforet
3 days ago
Relativistic effects are observed with many other 6th and 7th period elements. For example, the yellow colour of gold and caesium comes from altered electron energy levels due to relativistic orbital contraction, so are the special catalytic and bonding properties of platinum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_quantum_chemistry
gweinberg
3 days ago
OP claimed relativistic effects explain why mercury is liquid at room temperature. That may be part of the story, but it isn't the whole thing, since other heavy elements are not liquid at room temperature.
nyrikki
3 days ago
Explaining relativistic effects in plain text forums to a general audience is a big ask, but here is a link to the first study[0] that gave evidence but it has long expected.
[0] https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/anie.201302...
sigmoid10
2 days ago
That still doesn't answer why these relativistic effects don't cause neighbouring elements to be liquid. Electron velocities should be quite similar for them. There must be something apart from relativistic effects that makes mercury special in that regard.
nyrikki
a day ago
Gold is right next door, relativistic effects shrink both Gold and Mercury’s 6s orbitals.
In gold it changes the color, in Mercury it changes freezing temperature.
Gallium has a low melting point 29.76C but that is due to unique chemical bonding.
"relativistic contraction" (shrinking of s and p orbitals) and "relativistic expansion" (destabilization of d and f orbitals) causes many observed phenomena.
Relativistic contraction of the 6s orbital and expansion of the 5d orbital lower the energy required to excite electrons. Consequently, gold absorbs blue light.
Strong relativistic contraction of the outer 6s electrons leaves them tightly bound and unavailable for metallic bonding. This results in incredibly weak atomic interactions, thus mercury a liquid at room temperature.
Lead also has 6s, which is what makes lead acid batteries work as well as they do.
So while the observed effects change, there are relativity effects with several nearby neighbors.
sigmoid10
5 hours ago
I think you still misunderstood the question. Noone asked if there are relativistic effects with neighbors. In fact, it was said at the very beginning that they certainly have these relativistic effects too. The actual question is why are gold/thallium/cadmium etc. not liquid. There must be something apart from relativistic effects that explains why mercury turns into liquid at room temperature and these others don't.
gus_massa
3 days ago
It also has an effect, it is a small correction in the energies and bounding. Sometimes it's enough to change the color or state, sometimes it's a correction like making it 1% softer or harder and is not interesting unless you are a specialist.
LorenPechtel
3 days ago
You can start your car.
Without relativistic effects a lead acid battery would put out about .2V rather than 2V.
zyklu5
3 days ago
Nice! Thanks for this.
More details at: https://arxiv.org/abs/1008.4872
lr1970
2 days ago
Thanks for the link to the paper published in 2010 (16 years) ago. The OP article from Brown reads as if they were the first to establish importance of Special Relativity for heavy atoms which is not true.
LoveMortuus
2 days ago
I feel like that's often the case, right? Even gravity being describe first by Brahmagupta and Bhaskara II before Issac.
beacon294
3 days ago
It would be the element underneath it which is synthetic. But it is interesting that all the elements in that row are soft or brittle in pre form or in some compounds.
sehugg
3 days ago
And relativity describes the orbit of the quick-moving planet Mercury which shares its name with the quick-flowing element. What a world.
amelius
3 days ago
Meanwhile there are quarks inside every regular atom moving at speeds like 0.99995c ...
Jblx2
3 days ago
If the spatial extent of the proton is not infinite, this would imply that the charged quarks making up the proton are accelerating. Why aren't these quarks then emitting electromagnetic radiation, thus slowing down? I thought electrons were essentially standing waves around the nucleus, and thus not accelerating. Maybe there is a good youtube video explainer? Seems like there would also be an associated temperature and blackbody radiation of these quarks.
CamperBob2
3 days ago
Quarks don't have quantum energy states to transition between, hence they aren't subject to radiating photons due to acceleration.
Similar to why the electron in a hydrogen atom doesn't keep emitting radiation and crash into the nucleus once it reaches its ground state... there's no lower state for it to jump to.
Jblx2
3 days ago
Electrons in an antenna aren't transitioning between quantum states and are still radiating.
DHRicoF
3 days ago
Yes they are. They are transitioning through levels in the conduction band where you have plenty of them.
Every time you see a macroscopic phenomena, you are looking at a stupidly high amount of quantum levels with very similar energies.
CamperBob2
3 days ago
That's a good point, I don't know what's up with that. Google just says, "A single oscillating electron does not continuously emit radio waves; it has a microscopic probability of emitting a single RF photon during a given cycle." It would be necessary to delve into the whole QED thing to get a better explanation, based on what I'm reading.
Either way, quarks don't have an electron-like magnetic moment, so they aren't capable of coupling to the EM field.
IAmBroom
a day ago
"The laws that bind an ox do not bind Jupiter" applies to quantum particles.
dustingetz
3 days ago
because conservation of energy dominates
gcanyon
3 days ago
Interesting -- does that have any macroscopic/real world impact?
moelf
3 days ago
well, 90%+ of the mass of a proton comes from moving stuff, rather than rest mass of the quarks.
so the real world impact is, having anything at all
prox
3 days ago
I think I recently learned that the Higgs is actually not that much part of imparting mass for atomic particles. I thought it imparted all mass.
mr_toad
3 days ago
> I thought it imparted all mass.
It’s all relative; in the quarks frame of reference it does get all its mass from the interaction with the Higgs field.
prox
3 days ago
I really want to read more about this. It’s fascinating but also very difficult to wrap your head around. I did enjoy the Feynman talks.
ChrisClark
3 days ago
just enough to keep electrons from staying at light speed like photons
amelius
3 days ago
And this mass is again an emergent property of Einstein's relativity ...
gigatexal
3 days ago
This is the coolest fact I’ve learned in a long time. Thank you!