Brendinooo
an hour ago
I don't love the idea of smart glasses and I'm definitely very concerned about the implications of their widespread adoption. And yes, most of what we've seen hasn't looked very good.
But when I see a headline like "tacky men with ridiculous glasses" I get a sense that the intent is more to persuade via bullying than anything else, which...I dunno. Doesn't feel great!
slg
37 minutes ago
It also seems incredibly shortsighted. No fashion conscious person would have been caught dead wearing a smartwatch circa 2012, then Apple partnered with Hermes and eventually things changed. There are all sorts of valid complaints against this tech, but fashion is something so ephemeral that it's a silly to act like it is a long-term hindrance to adoption.
websap
27 minutes ago
No fashion forward person wears an Apple watch. Anyone, who remotely cares about what's on their wrist wears a whoop and a traditional watch.
Problem with the Apple Watch is it does too much. They should have never enabled Apps on the Apple Watch. Kept it super simple. I hope they'll come up with a new version with an improved form factor and better battery life soon.
smokedetector1
44 minutes ago
I find it to be an acceptable use of mockery, one of the most powerful cultural methods of exposing that the emperor has no clothes
Brendinooo
37 minutes ago
The point of that story was that everyone was going along with something that was obviously nonsense, and the kid who breaks the spell simply tells the truth.
In this situation most people don't buy smart glasses because they don't look good or have a killer use case. It's not the same thing.
smokedetector1
35 minutes ago
it is spiritually the same even if its not exactly the same
Brendinooo
28 minutes ago
Stating the obvious truth and mocking are, spiritually, two very different things.
smokedetector1
15 minutes ago
no, they’re not
BeetleB
38 minutes ago
I'm not finding it to be any different from "Four eyes!"
zerobees
32 minutes ago
In this instance, it's directed at people who are literally at the top of the world, having amassed almost unthinkable power and influence, and want to start a fashion trend specifically to grow their business empires.
So yeah, it's a tiny bit different than bullying a classmate for having bad eyesight.
BeetleB
22 minutes ago
> it's directed at people who are literally at the top of the world
The very first sentence in the article associates people who wear these with "pervs".
So no, this is not merely directed at "the top of the world".
As an aside: VRs were "the cool thing" in the 90's and 00's. They never became practical, and fell out of favor. "Normal" people never stopped mocking those who used them. Now that Meta has made glasses that actually come close to looking normal, tech folks mock back ...? I just don't get it.
Yes, I get all the privacy concerns. But making fun because of very subjective reasons like appearance? It undercuts all the privacy concerns.
People need to grow up.
bigfishrunning
17 minutes ago
This would be a great argument if there were any non-pervy application for these glasses. They're marketed at people who already have screens and better cameras in their pockets and on their wrists. "Clandestine" use cases are the only application here.
Brendinooo
12 minutes ago
Ugh, trying not to get baited into stuff like this but -
There are absolutely non-pervy reasons why your hands might be occupied but you want to record a video.
bigfishrunning
a minute ago
This is why gopros exist.
BeetleB
11 minutes ago
> This would be a great argument if there were any non-pervy application for these glasses.
Have you even bothered researching it?
Can you please go and respond to the comments in this submission and let them know you are denying their reality?
bigfishrunning
a few seconds ago
Use a GoPro or something. You'll get better quality video and you won't look like you're trying to hide the fact that you're filming.
smokedetector1
36 minutes ago
zuck is trying to push bad, ugly glasses to profit at the expense of causing nefarious social impact. the blog is mocking the ugliness of the glasses. it represents how out of touch zuck is. i’m not sure how you got to “four eyes” from there
soiltype
18 minutes ago
although it's true and funny that rich assholes often have terrible taste, it's important that criticism of pervert glasses doesn't make their ugliness load-bearing. what happens if the next gen looks good, we're suddenly okay with them?
BeetleB
34 minutes ago
> zuck is trying to push bad, ugly glasses
...
> i’m not sure how you got to “four eyes” from there
I'm guessing you're younger than me. In my youth, having glasses meant being ugly.
bigfishrunning
16 minutes ago
It doesn't mean that anymore. But having "smart glasses" does mean "jerk".
smokedetector1
34 minutes ago
i know what it means. you’re projecting something completely inappropriate, i’m guessing from your own life, onto the blogs criticism.
vkou
36 minutes ago
Prescription glasses are a medical device that corrects for a disability.
This shit ain't it.
Why are you trying so hard to shoehorn inappropriate criticism of people with disabilities... Into appropriate criticism of this technocrap?
tech_ken
18 minutes ago
I think there’s a difference between full-on “bullying” and what I’d call “blunt criticism”. I think bullying requires an intent to silence or otherwise coerce through fear. Blunt criticism is more about skipping the niceties and saying it plainly, and accepting that your subject might get offended as a result. Calling someone “tacky” is way more in the blunt criticism camp I think. It’s certainly not “nice”, but there’s no way that I read this blog article as trying to change Mark Zuckerberg’s mind through fear. Nobody is getting pilloried for being tacky, and tackiness can even be repositioned as desirable through the lens of nostalgia or similar.
reactordev
44 minutes ago
Slips past the filters when “Voyeur glasses let you record your creepy interactions with females” gets flagged.
quantified
38 minutes ago
Does it make you feel like getting them out of spite? Real question.
Brendinooo
34 minutes ago
Real answer: more than I'd like. I am a contrarian who has intentionally worked to temper that impulse.
But...nah, not really.
I will say though: The only time I know for sure I knew someone had a pair of Meta Ray-Bans was in my kid's youth baseball league; The coach would film the kids batting while he pitched and shared the videos with us. People loved it. There are definitely cases where hands-free video recording would come in handy.
bigfishrunning
14 minutes ago
A GoPro with a chest or hat harness would take much better videos
sdevonoes
34 minutes ago
They are billionaires, so it’s fine for us to make fun of them (because the joke is on us)
vkou
39 minutes ago
> I get a sense that the intent is more to persuade via bullying than anything else, which...I dunno. Doesn't feel great!
Most advertising persuades you with less-than-rational means. It's just fighting fire with fire.
And it's quite justified, because in this case, it punches up against a technology with a net-negative social impact.
Brendinooo
25 minutes ago
I, of course, could never confirm intent in an online comment thread, but I suspect that some people like to give themselves permission to be mean.
(This suspicion hasn't been lessened by some of the replies I've received.)
toasty228
26 minutes ago
Lack of bullying is exactly why the world is now run by sociopathic dorks like the ones pictured in the article
aaron695
21 minutes ago
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