The URL shortener that makes your links look as suspicious as possible

521 pointsposted 11 hours ago
by dreadsword

106 Comments

postalcoder

9 hours ago

There may actually be some utility here. LLM agents refuse to traverse the links. Tested with gemini-3-pro, gpt-5.2, and opus 4.5.

edit: gpt-oss 20B & 120B both eagerly visit it.

devsda

8 hours ago

I wish this came a day earlier.

There is a current "show your personal site" post on top of HN [1] with 1500+ comments. I wonder how many of those sites are or will be hammered by AI bots in the next few days to steal/scrape content.

If this can be used as a temporary guard against AI bots, that would have been a good opportunity to test it out.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46618714

aflukasz

an hour ago

AI bots (or clients claiming to be one) appear quite fast on new sites, at least that's what I saw recently in few places. They probably monitor Certificate Transparency logs - you won't hide by avoiding linking. Unless you are ok with staying in the shadow of naked http.

xlii

7 hours ago

I posted my site on the thread.

My site is hosted on Cloudflare and I trust its protection way more than flavor of the month method. This probably won't be patched anytime soon but I'd rather have some people click my link and not just avoid it along with AI because it looks fishy :)

treebeard901

6 hours ago

I've been considering how feasible it would be to build a modern form of the denial of service low orbit ion cannon by having various LLMs hammer sites until they break. I'm sure anything important already has Cloudflare style DDOS mitigation so maybe it's not as effective. Still, I think it's only a matter of time before someone figures it out.

There have been several amplification attacks using various protocols for DDOS too...

devsda

3 hours ago

Yeah I meant using it as an experiment to test with two different links(or domains) and not as a solution to evade bot traffic.

Still, I think it would be interesting to know if anybody noticed a visible spike in bot traffic(especially AI) after sharing their site info in that thread.

testfrequency

7 hours ago

Glad I’m not the only one who felt icky seeing that post.

I agree my tinfoil hat signal told me this was the perfect way to ask people for bespoke, hand crafted content - which of course AI will love to slurp up to keep feeding the bear.

kzalesak

3 hours ago

I think that something specifically intended for this, like Anubis, is a much better option.

subscribed

2 hours ago

Anubis flatly refuses me access to several websites when I'm accessing them with a normal Chromium with enabled JS and whatnot, from a mainstream, typical OS, just with aggressive anti-tracking settings.

Not sure if that's the intended use case. At least Cloudflare politely masks for CAPTCHA.

john01dav

an hour ago

I thought that Anubis solely is proof of work, so I'm very curious as to what's going on here.

fc417fc802

40 minutes ago

What do you mean "refuses"? The worst it should do is serve up a high difficulty proof of work. Unless it gained new capabilities recently?

Are you sure the block isn't due to the authors of those websites using some other tool in addition?

jnrk

7 hours ago

Of course, the downside is that people might not even see your site at all because they’re afraid to click on that suspicious link.

postalcoder

7 hours ago

Site should add a reverse lookup. Provide the poison and antidote.

gala8y

4 hours ago

Bitly does that, just add '+' to Bitly URL (probably other shorteners, too).

briandear

3 hours ago

How is AI viewing content any different from Google? I don’t even use Google anymore because it’s so filled with SEO trash as to be useless for many things.

Zambyte

an hour ago

Try hosting a cgit server on a 1u server in your bedroom and you'll see why.

PUSH_AX

6 hours ago

LLM led scraping might not as it requires an LLM to make a choice to kick it off, but crawling for the purpose of training data is unlikely to be affected.

Barathkanna

7 hours ago

Sounds like a useful signal for people building custom agents or models. Being able to control whether automated systems follow a link via metadata is an interesting lever, especially given how inconsistent current model heuristics are.

latexr

2 hours ago

I think it’s perfectly reasonable to make something useless for fun, it’s an interesting idea.

But what I’d like to understand is why there are so many of the same thing. I know I’ve seen this exact idea multiple times on HN. It’s funny the first time, but once it’s done once and the novelty is gone (which is almost immediately), what’s the point of another and another and another?

amne

2 hours ago

I think it's just someone learning something new most of the time.

I have home made url shorteners in go, rust, java, python, php, elixir, typescript, etc. why? because I'm trying the language and this kind of project touches on many things: web, databases, custom logic, how and what design patterns can I apply using as much of the language as I can to build the thing.

latexr

41 minutes ago

Right. But the question is why redo the exact same joke? Why not come up with another twist (like the URL lengthener) or do no twist but be useful?

I’m not criticising the author or anyone who came before. I’m trying to understand the impetus between redoing a joke that isn’t yours. You don’t learn anything new by redoing the exact same gag that you wouldn’t learn by being even slightly original or making the project truly useful.

Ideas are a dime a dozen. You could make e.g. a Fonzie URL shortener (different lengths of “ayyyyy”), or an interstellar one (each is the name of a space object), or a binary one (all ones and zeroes)… Each of those would take about the same effort and teach you the same, but they’re also different enough they would make some people remember them, maybe even look at the author and their other projects, instead of just “oh, another one of these, close”.

postalcoder

34 minutes ago

A joke isn’t the best example because there are jokes that never changes but the delivery is a sign of mastery. The Aristocrats is like Bach’s cello suite for comedians.

latexr

26 minutes ago

The Aristocrats is a special case where the setup is the joke instead of the punchline. The point is the inventiveness of the journey. If it was told with the same setup every time, it wouldn’t be funny.

cubefox

a few seconds ago

One reason is that not all these websites manage to make equally "creepy" links, even though the basic idea is the same. I remember one version which was a lot more alarming than the current example, with links containing a mix of suspicious content hinting at viruses, phishing, piracy/warez sites, pornography (XXX cams), and Bitcoin scams. I don't remember the website, but the current case seems rather weak by comparison.

victords

2 hours ago

A fun project doesn't need to be original, IMO.

URL Shortener is still one of the most popular System Design questions, building this project is a great way to have some experience / understanding of it, for example.

latexr

40 minutes ago

> A fun project doesn't need to be original, IMO.

I agree. But a URL shortener with a twist isn’t just fun, it’s funny. The joke—as opposed to the usefulness—is what’s interesting about it. But when the same joke is overdone, it’s no longer funny.

> building this project is a great way to have some experience / understanding of it

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46632329

meken

44 minutes ago

I’ve been browsing this site for a decade plus and this idea was new to me. Maybe the author is in the same boat.

Edit: I see referencnes to shadyurl in the comments and I have heard of that, but probably wouldn’t have thought of it.

latexr

37 minutes ago

Fair. I’d think they would look for prior work beforehand, but that’s perfectly valid.

https://xkcd.com/1053/

Again, this was not a criticism, but a genuine question.

zX41ZdbW

an hour ago

I would also like to have something like this, but for "vintage" links - something that looks like it was from the late 90s.

I use them in tests, just for fun: https://github.com/ClickHouse/ClickHouse/blob/master/tests/q...

gnabgib

11 hours ago

Related: A URL shortener not shortening the URL but makes it look very dodgy (434 points, 2023, 100 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34609461

vedmakk

3 hours ago

That's less a URL shortener and more a URL dodgifier.

tylervigen

2 hours ago

To be fair, the one in the OP also did not shorten any of the links I gave it.

Bengalilol

3 hours ago

The key point here is "not shortening"

arjvik

9 hours ago

My favorite link of all time:

https://jpmorgan.c1ic.link/logger_zcGFC2_bank_xss.docm

Definitely not meta

deltarholamda

37 minutes ago

I got one where the called script ended in ".pl" and I had a flashback to the 90s. My trousers grew into JNCOs, Limp Bizkit started playing out of nowhere and I got a massive urge to tell Slashdot that Alan Thicke had died.

cuechan

4 hours ago

With Firefox on Android it simply says

Deceptive site issue

This web page at [...] has been reported as a deceptive site and has been blocked based on your security preferences.

What's going on? I can't find any setting to disable this.

fuddle

9 hours ago

Imagine using this as your personal website lol

qnleigh

6 hours ago

What's up with the creepy ads on this website? It seems like they are actually sketchy ads and not just fake ads for comedic effect. One shows some scammy nonsense about your device being infected and the other links to a real VPN app.

wmeredith

19 minutes ago

This is probably the result of a context based ad network serving sketchy adds because of the suspicious url content.

HPsquared

2 hours ago

That's just the ambient creepiness of the internet. It's a creepy place!

bityard

10 hours ago

IIRC, shadyurl was the original version of this. Doesn't seem to be around anymore, though.

nomel

9 hours ago

shadyurl a whole bunch of different incredibly shady domains that were used at random. it was beautiful.

vhurg

3 hours ago

Please don’t use 3rd party relays for your URLs. It’s bad enough to have your own server, domain, etc. as single points of failure and bottlenecks without adding a 3rd party into the mix, who either themselves or someone that takes over their domain later track users, randomly redirect your users to a malicious site, or just fail.

I know people have fond memories of long ago when they thought surely some big company’s URL shortener would never be taken down and learned from that when it later was.

TomMasz

43 minutes ago

This is great. It created a link to my personal site that Firefox blocked me from going to.

juliangmp

5 hours ago

This is legit! If you disable your adblock you even get a suspicious ad

bsza

4 hours ago

Yeah but have fun explaining yourself to the police when the author abandons the project and an actual scammer ends up buying up all those domains.

dreadsword

11 hours ago

Saw this on relaunched Digg and figured HN would appreciate it.

qweiopqweiop

5 hours ago

Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time

koakuma-chan

11 hours ago

I don't appreciate how AI generated this website looks.

nimih

8 hours ago

It seems appropriate that, for a website whose purpose is to make links which raise your suspicions, the visual design itself also raises your suspicions.

olyjohn

8 hours ago

Just looks like every other generic framework oriented site.

4k93n2

9 hours ago

which bit are you getting an AI smell from?

koakuma-chan

9 hours ago

gradient background, card, button

anomaly_

5 hours ago

Have you looked at a website in the last 10 years?

Alupis

9 hours ago

Perhaps, but nearly every tutorial in all the modern frameworks demonstrate this exact style.

bundie

8 hours ago

Digg is back?

Edit: looks like you need an invite code.

Bummer

dieggsy

7 hours ago

This is fun. Is it not checking for previously submitted URLs though? I can seemingly re-submit the exact same URL and get a new link every time. I would expect this to fill the database unnecessarily but I have no idea how the backend works.

saghm

7 hours ago

Am I missing something, or would these essentially be implemented via DNS records? It's not clear to me that keeping the links in a database would be necessary at all (unless the DNS records are what you mean by "database")

janwillemb

7 hours ago

DNS is only for resolving the host part. The path is not passing through a dns query.

In example.com/blah, the /blah part is interpreted by the host itself.

And apart from that I would indeed consider DNS records a database.

victorevogor

4 hours ago

Just wondering. so you bought c1ic.link and web-safe.link. That's very cool

lzap

7 hours ago

I like how old-school HN comment section does not care about creepy links at all. Or link for that matter.

dizhn

3 hours ago

Firefox is freaking out on some of these. It's hilarious.

zakki

7 hours ago

jimnotgym

4 hours ago

I think Microsoft have their own version of this

Msn.com Office.com Sharepoint.com Hotmail.com Etc, plus all the subdomains they insert before them. It makes it very easy to create phishing emails that look plausible.

Zambyte

an hour ago

microsoftonline.com is one of my favorites. Like how can you look any more scammy :D

virajk_31

2 hours ago

why do creepy links look creepy?...

neuroelectron

2 hours ago

/instagram.c1ic.link/mCLIIp_free_vacation_offer.zip

FuturisticLover

7 hours ago

I am sharing content using these creepy links to send to office people.

abhinai

7 hours ago

Please take my upvote. :)

fancychancy

10 hours ago

Haha, it's fun. Just thinking, is there some place where creepy links would be better ?

AnotherGoodName

10 hours ago

I've been at a company that internally sends out fake links that log the user and links to an educational page on internet safety.

I honestly don't mind too much since it's a once a year thing (hacktober) and honestly companies should be trying to catch out employees who click any and all links.

trollbridge

9 hours ago

We used to have fun hammering millions of requests to such URLs from a VPS when they would send such emails to role mailboxes.

Eventually we got asked to please make it stop. I asked them to please stop sending fake phishing emails to robots.

lzzzam

6 hours ago

I can just say thanks

awesome_dude

11 hours ago

vanc_cefepime

10 hours ago

I added google.com and it spit out https://twitterDOTc1icDOTlink/install_Jy7NpK_private_videoDOTzip

Interesting that it spit out a .zip url. Was not expecting that so I changed all the “.” to “DOT” so I don’t get punished for posting a spammy link despite this literally being a website to make links as spammy and creepy as possible.

bmacho

4 hours ago

punished by whom?

fuddle

9 hours ago

lol, I'm not clicking a .vbs link

CrimsonCape

10 hours ago

It is hilarious and i'm not clicking any link lol.

pabs3

9 hours ago

Please don't make any more URL shorteners, they are just a bad idea.

https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/URLTeam

aussieguy1234

9 hours ago

I always end up making my own, they're so simple to write.

Saves using one of the "free" ones which looks like its free but you're actually on a free trial, then you can't access your links after that trial expires.

blenderob

2 hours ago

Way to miss the point of the project!