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Cecot – 60 Minutes

548 pointsposted 12 hours ago

46 Comments

slg

12 hours ago

I'm reminded of the Letter on Justice and Open Debate[1] that Bari Weiss signed only a few years ago, now she's spiking stories like this one on CECOT for showing the current administration in a negative light.

I also wonder if this story will get the type of leeway to stay on HN to collect the 200+ upvotes and 300+ comments of that previous example or if it will be flagged off the front page within minutes like so many other similar stories.

EDIT: No idea how long this post actually lasted, but checking in an hour later to see this has been flagged completely off the first 10 pages of HN despite getting close to that 200 point total.

[1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23759283

cdrnsf

12 hours ago

She was hired following the acquisition of Paramount to do things exactly like this. She's not a journalist.

dralley

8 hours ago

Literally not a journalist. She went from the opinion pages to writing opinion on substack. And for "some reason" was put in charge of a news organization.

derektank

8 hours ago

She has worked as a staff editor in newsrooms, most notably at Tablet. It’s not accurate to say her career has solely been in the opinion section.

Also, it’s not unheard of for people working on the op-ed side of the house to become editors in chief. Most notable example I can think of would be Katharine Viner at the Guardian. And in the reverse, James Bennet went from being editor in chief at the Atlantic to running the op-ed page at the NYT.

UncleMeat

4 hours ago

I wouldn't exactly use James Bennet as a successful example here.

lostlogin

10 hours ago

A similar post with comments linking to this thread just got marked as a duplicate, taking it off the front page.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46361571

UncleMeat

10 hours ago

Weiss got her start screaming about how various college professors should be fired. There has never once been a moment in her career where she seriously cared about open debate.

empath75

11 hours ago

Everyone who signed that letter was either a dupe or a fraud.

martythemaniak

10 hours ago

You can't understand technology without understanding the people behind it. I always wonder about all these non-bot people who support her: is it that they're in on the grift and everyone understands that she's just there as a wink-wink-totaly-not state censor, or do they genuinely fall for her schtick? Is there something else? I never quite get it.

A once-reasonable friend of mine genuinely thinks RJK is just some dude who tries his best, and doesn't consider him a crazy anti-vaxxer. Crazy

scratchyone

12 hours ago

I have a feeling this will get DMCA-ed off of Internet Archive in an attempt to suppress it. Here's the infohash of the archive.org torrent download for future reference, this should allow the file to be retrieved in any torrent client as long as someone in the world is seeding it still.

8105370ed7dba50dc7ec659fd67550569b4dd8a0

evil-olive

12 hours ago

here it is, in magnet link form:

    magnet:?xt=urn:btih:734abc77f48d11c78543c52004b6f57db71d6d92&dn=60minutes-cecotsegment&xl=1483256352&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fbt1.archive.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fbt2.archive.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&ws=http://ia601703.us.archive.org/32/items/&ws=http://ia801703.us.archive.org/32/items/&ws=https://archive.org/download/

(exported from my currently-seeding torrent client, then pasted into a separate torrent client, to verify that it works correctly)

ProllyInfamous

11 hours ago

Hey there seed buddy... I'm about to become the fourth web seed.

We're not going anywhere.

—Hydra

JakeStone

10 hours ago

It's ridiculous that this has to be done.

I'm honestly speechless. But thanks for the magnet link.

mrjay42

4 hours ago

Seeding :3

ProllyInfamous

11 hours ago

<https://www.muellershewrote.com/p/watch-the-60-minutes-cecot...>

This is disgraceful [0], whatever your opinion on illegal immigration.

[0] deporting non-citizens to 3rd-party countries/prisons

pavel_lishin

12 hours ago

There are other links here as well: https://www.404media.co/archivists-posted-the-60-minutes-cec...

tastyface

12 hours ago

404media is shadowbanned from HN for nebulous reasons. The mods should really revisit this policy: they've been doing some great reporting recently.

defrost

11 hours ago

A16z-backed Doublespeed hacked, revealing what its AI-generated accounts promote (404media.co)

  289 points by grahamlee 5 days ago | flag | past | 171 comments

so some slip through.

But: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=404media.co sure has a lot of [dead]

UncleMeat

10 hours ago

Don't forget that the mods tried to remove the reference to a16z from the title on that one.

tastyface

8 hours ago

I believe they all start out dead, and enough people have to vouch to make the article visible and commentable.

drweevil

10 hours ago

My own experience is that they've been solid throughout. Certainly better than many other options, at a time when the technical press has been generally disappointing.

pyvpx

12 hours ago

Has there been any mention of reasoning behind it?

NaOH

12 hours ago

There's nothing nebulous; there's no workaround for 404media's articles.

Tell HN: Paywalls with workarounds are OK; paywall complaints are off topic - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989 - Sept 2015 (160 comments)

scratchyone

11 hours ago

It seems to work for me? https://archive.ph/sr0sd

NaOH

11 hours ago

Maybe that's new? Either way, great to know.

esseph

6 hours ago

Because they've literally been creating stories about A16Z.

I've posted about some and they just get instaflagged or hidden.

LarsDu88

12 hours ago

How long before Hackernews takes this one down?

scratchyone

11 hours ago

It's wiped from the front page already

jmward01

11 hours ago

This is why we need archive.org.

UltraSane

17 minutes ago

This should NOT be flagged.

r721

5 hours ago

>Here is Sharyn Alfonsi’s email to her ‘60 Minutes’ colleagues in full:

https://x.com/grynbaum/status/2002943084322287815

cdrnsf

12 hours ago

Additional context:

> The Trump administration has repeatedly claimed that the men sent to El Salvador were overwhelmingly violent criminals; Pro Publica reported that the administration knew at least 197 of the men had not been convicted of crimes in the United States, and six had been convicted of violent offenses.

https://www.404media.co/archivists-posted-the-60-minutes-cec...

postepowanieadm

3 hours ago

> had not been convicted of crimes in the United States

...and outside of the United States?

hashstring

2 hours ago

Watch the video or read this report from Human Rights Watch [1].

> The Trump administration claimed that the majority of Venezuelans sent to CECOT were members of the Venezuelan organized crime group Tren de Aragua.

> Only [3.1% of the 226/252 Venezuelan prisoners in CECOT] had been convicted of a violent or potentially violent offense.

> Human Rights Watch reviewed documents in 58 of the 130 documented cases of people held in CECOT, and all indicated that they did not have criminal records in Venezuela or other countries in Latin America.

CECOT was already found to violate the UN’s minimum treatment of prisoners rights (aka “The Nelson Mandela Rules”) [2] by a report of the US.

Trump’s administration blatantly violates human rights.

Finally, here is a report investigating why the US can use the El Salavador prison [3].

> It has been clear from the beginning what Trump wants from El Salvador: an ally who would accept, and even imprison, deportees. Less clear has been what Bukele might want from the United States. In striking the deal with the Salvadoran president, Trump has effectively undercut the Vulcan investigation and shielded Bukele from further scrutiny, current and former U.S. officials said.

[1] https://www.hrw.org/report/2025/11/12/you-have-arrived-in-he...

[2] https://www.unodc.org/documents/justice-and-prison-reform/Ne...

[3] https://www.propublica.org/article/bukele-trump-el-salvador-...

Scoundreller

10 hours ago

Funny how it leaked out by sending it off to their Canadian distributor

tastyface

12 hours ago

As a companion piece, here is ProPublica's recent report trying to determine who exactly was sent to this torture camp: https://projects.propublica.org/venezuelan-immigrants-trump-...

empath75

11 hours ago

People in the US now have to use VPN’s to get access to domestic news from a foreign country. I think it’s fair to say that the wheels have come off democracy and things are badly broken.

mrjay42

4 hours ago

Why all those articles on HN are "flagged"? And by WHOM?

I've been watching this 60min piece, and there's nothing wrong with is. It's journalism well done.

Do Trumpist minions have their ways on HN?

UltraSane

9 minutes ago

Marc Andreessen is a strong supporter of Trump.

krapp

3 hours ago

It only takes a few flags to be effective and there are definitely more than a few Trumpists on HN so theoretically yes. Could also be the likely much larger contingent of people who flag all "political" and "non-technical" content by default.

Like it or not Hacker News has never been (and will never be) a platform for free and open debate. It's designed around aggressive curation for quality over quantity and that makes it very easy to brigade by design.

UncleMeat

26 minutes ago

> Could also be the likely much larger contingent of people who flag all "political" and "non-technical" content by default.

It could, but that'd be odd. We've seen oodles of structurally similar posts hang out on the front page unflagged before. There are even past examples of major posts criticizing the journalistic integrity of 60 Minutes. Only once the material becomes critical of the regime does it become flagged.