anonymousiam
11 hours ago
Perhaps if they had put more resources toward maintaining their water infrastructure instead of spending on their nuclear arms ambitions, funding Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, etc., they might not have had this problem.
drewbeck
11 hours ago
Governments like all institutions are able to do many things at once. Connecting their water problems to the issues you list is essentially a non sequitur absent specific evidence of either/or policy choices.
bawolff
7 hours ago
Governments have finite amounts of money. Both of these things (water infrastructure and fighting proxy wars) are capital intensive projects. Its reasonable to conclude less money spent on one would allow more money spent on another.
Even without that factor, Attention does matter. Governments can do multiple things, but in more dictatorial regimes, doing things well often require prioritization at the top, and there is a limited number of things the top can prioritize. Its one of the main failings of dictatorships in general: the top is afraid to appoint too competent middle management lest they rise up, so everything becomes very top down managed.
Additionally some of the issues causing this seem to be related to corruption in their military, like diverting water in unsustainable ways to support farming projects that have ties to people well connected to irgc. (To be fair, i dont know how true that is, i dont have a good source for that)
nandomrumber
9 hours ago
On the other hand, one cost effective way of desalinating sea water is to use the waste heat from a nuclear power station.
droopyEyelids
11 hours ago
You can trace all their problems back to the 1979 Islamic revolution. If they would have simply kept the Shah as the ruler and stayed a client state to Britain, they wouldn't need to fund any of these militants, and would probably be a friend to western countries.
bawolff
7 hours ago
Its been 46 years, there have been opportunities for peace along the way if they wanted it. It would have required compromises though.
Iran's not war not peace policy is an expensive one, both directly and indirectly (e.g. turning them into a parriah state). In the end it seems like its also been largely ineffective. Instead of keeping them out of war, proxies like Hamas ended up drawing them into one, and it ended up being a pretty one sided war not in their favour. Although i suppose prior to that point it was yielding geopolitical gains.
lolive
11 hours ago
You are never a friend of the Western countries [==the US] when you are an oil producer. You are their vassal or their foe. #oilCurse
simonsarris
an hour ago
This is an out of date take. Not long after the fracking boom that began in the mid 2000's, The US is now by far the world's largest oil producer. We used to produce less oil than Saudi Arabia, now we produce 66% more. We produce 4x the oil that Iran does. Oil is just not the same geopolitical force that it was in the 80's to 2010.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/oil-production-by-country...
bawolff
7 hours ago
Which one is Norway?
lolive
3 hours ago
FpUser
10 hours ago
And if my ancient ancestor did not kill that fly we will be travelling to stars now. And why ffs one country should obey the other?
dyauspitr
9 hours ago
So what you’re saying is if they stayed quiet and supplicant to the British while they drained their oil resources while the extreme elites made all the money, everything would be okay? The Islamic revolution was a populist revolution, supported by the vast majority of the country because their lives were shit.
FpUser
11 hours ago
You gonna say the same about the consequence of events like Hurricane Katrina? Couple of less nukes, military contracts or whatever and you could have prevented the disaster.
anonymousiam
11 hours ago
How do you prevent a hurricane? The failures of responding to the disaster were all at the state/local level.
drewbeck
11 hours ago
The failures were not all at the state/local level. The feds also had many issues.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_government_re...
FpUser
10 hours ago
You do not prevent hurricane. But you can prevent fucked up dams, corralling people in stadiums etc. etc.
Anyways my point was not really about hurricane.
dyauspitr
9 hours ago
Someone has to counter the saudis, Israelis etc. the longer this Palestinian conflict goes on the more it seems like there needs to be at least some sort of opposition to their genocide.