darkwater
7 hours ago
To the OP: nice karma trick posting the URL with the anchor to bypass the HN duplicates detector. Dang & co, this is a bug, it should be fixed.
I know because I stumbled on the same page following the links from the blog of the author of another post that made the frontpage yesterday (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45589156), liked the TernFS concept, submitted it and got redirected to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45290245
txrx0000
4 hours ago
The fact that a repost got so many upvotes means the post has a lot of value, but many missed it previously. Perhaps it would be better to allow reposts to collect karma as usual so they would have a chance to get to the front page, but have the repost's link and comment page redirect to the existing post's link and comment page (unless a certain amount of time has passed, then the repost can be its own post and have its own comments section, which is the system we already have).
I think being able to identify what's worthy of reposting deserves upvotes, too. If a repost truly provided little to no value, then the number of upvotes would reflect that and it would never get to the front page. But in this case, many people and myself included would have never found the post if it weren't for this repost.
Different batches of users are on HN at different times and on different days. Allowing reposts to collect karma would mean that every link's exposure is derived from the entire HN userbase's votes rather than a small subset of the users that happened to be online at the time of the post.
dspillett
4 hours ago
> Dang & co, this is a bug, it should be fixed.
Agreed, more or less, this would be easy to work around naively. Though an duplicate detection should not block reposts based on removing the anchor nor should the anchor portion automatically be removed generally. Some sites unnecessarily setup as SPAs use the anchor portion for context so it is needed for direct links to the right article in those¹, and going directly to a specific section in a long page can also be useful.
> nice karma trick posting the URL with the anchor to bypass the HN duplicates detector.
Karma jealously is as unbecoming as karma whoring, so perhaps wind the ol' neck in a little there. Laziness/ineptitude is more common than malice and this could have been accidental via quick copy+paste.
A better way to respond in this situation is a more neutral “Already recently discussed at [link]”, as had been done some hours before your comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45646691#45647047
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[1] Yes, those sites are badly designed, but they are unlikely to change because of our technical preferences and breaking the ability to deep link into them would add an issue for HN while not being noticed by those sites at all.
darkwater
4 hours ago
> Karma jealously is as unbecoming as karma whoring, so perhaps wind the ol' neck in a little there. Laziness/ineptitude is more common than malice and this could have been accidental via quick copy+paste.
Agreed, and sorry for that (even though my gut and not-so-gut feeling is that it was done on purpose rather than by mistake, but I might be on the wrong side myself on this).
dspillett
4 hours ago
Of course if it is a pattern (I've not checked OP's post history to check) then accuse away and present evidence, to make it clear that we tut disapprovingly at that sort of thing!