djohnston
2 days ago
Wow that video of the house next to the mine in Arkansas is nuts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHrkZtuVPdU&embeds_referring...
I would legitimately have driven my car through that building if I lived here.
ksec
2 days ago
How is that legal in US? I am pretty sure that is not legal is many part of the world even if the sound was only on from 9 to 5.
And last time I went to a Datacentre it may be an eye sore but it doesn't produce any noise at all. Do all DC in US produce noise like that?
thepryz
2 days ago
No. Hyperscale data centers like those discussed in the article are usually evaporative cooled and tend to be relatively quiet outside the building unless they are running generators due to testing or utility outages. You may hear a low pitched fan hum if the data center is running hot or they need to purge the air inside for another reason. Assuming you have competent controls and facilities engineers, that should be pretty rare.
I have heard sounds like that from AI/ML host racks, but that's inside the datahall, which makes me wonder what kind of building and cooling design they have.
djohnston
2 days ago
I've been never to one that sounds like that, but I've only been to a handful of small ones. I would imagine a company crude enough to set it up so close to someone's house isn't doing any sort of noise abatement either.
ramesh31
2 days ago
>How is that legal in US? I am pretty sure that is not legal is many part of the world even if the sound was only on from 9 to 5.
Because the people who live there voted for the kind of people who would allow it to happen. And they'll do it again, every time.
thepryz
2 days ago
Also exemplified by the Ohio nuclear bribery scandal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_nuclear_bribery_scandal
ActionHank
2 days ago
That's the "capitalism" these politicians are referring to when they are saying they're "pro-capitalism". They're saying that they're very much in support of people with money doing whatever they want to people without.
arethuza
2 days ago
'What do I care about law? Ain't I got the power?'
Cornelius Vanderbilt
bearjaws
2 days ago
It's Arkansas which follows the golden rule, those who have the gold set the rules.
jcranmer
2 days ago
> How is that legal in US? I am pretty sure that is not legal is many part of the world even if the sound was only on from 9 to 5.
It's probably not legal, although this is an area of law that is generally delegated to the most local levels of governments, so the details will vary based on where exactly you're located. There's going to be a catch-all public nuisance ordinance this would fall under, although there may also be a specific noise ordinance that this is violating.
organsnyder
2 days ago
Yeah, this could happen very easily, especially in a small municipality. A hypothetical order of events:
A datacenter operator approaches the township, selling the town commissioners on a project that will make them an "AI hub". The town leaders don't know the correct questions to ask, especially regarding noise, but they know they'll be lambasted if they turn this down. And the developer claims they have a dozen other sites that are shovel-ready if this town gives them any hassle.
The neighbor probably gets a postcard in the mail letting them know about an upcoming development hearing. This postcard is easily overlooked among the day's junk mail, and it doesn't have many details, anyways. Or, perhaps the neighbor has an attitude similar to many rural residents, and figures whatever happens on their neighbor's property isn't their concern (these are large properties, after all).
Even if the neighbor does complain, they're one voice against the many that want to see new development in their town—perhaps the first in recent memory (other than the two Dollar General stores that drove their old independent stores out of business). And so much in small town government depends on interpersonal relationships; perhaps the neighbor isn't well-connected, or a town commissioner even has an old grudge against them.
All of this is happening with little notice from the public. The newspaper was bought out by Gannett a decade ago; it's now thrice-weekly edition is 90% wire service stories, with the local coverage consisting almost entirely of "hard-hitting" crime coverage written by a reporter who is also the only local reporter for three other papers.
kotaKat
2 days ago
Oh hey, that’s how upstate New York got ripped off on Bitcoin!
I’m sure all those jobs from coinmint materialized.
Oh wait, they didn’t…
solardev
2 days ago
In the US, corporate wrongs trump human rights.
bloomingeek
2 days ago
Unfortunately, you make a point based on the supreme court.
SCOTUS decided that corporations are people, which refers to the legal concept of corporate personhood. The question is: can a "person" legally disturb their neighbor with this amount of noise and get away with it? Wrongly, I think SCOTUS would decide in favor of the corporation if it gets that far.
JohnTHaller
2 days ago
It's in a poor Republican state, so you can get away with all kinds of things.
user
2 days ago
hnuser123456
2 days ago
That sounds like hundreds of 40mm or 80mm fans running at 5000rpm. You can get a lot more airflow with less wasted power by using larger slower fans... and they won't wear out as fast.
bearjaws
2 days ago
That is pretty typical of these miners, typically 1U type designs.
Heres a newer model from Bitmain https://bitmain.digital/antminers/antminer-s19pro/index.html