Lead drinking-water pipes must be replaced nationwide, EPA says

176 pointsposted a year ago
by JumpCrisscross

25 Comments

asow92

a year ago

My mom works for our local municipal government administering a HUD lead abatement grant. The state of lead contamination in many older homes in low income areas is just awful.

laluser

a year ago

I recently did a full replacement of my lead-soldered water pipes in my 1970s home in Seattle. Despite how much people rave about how great the drinking water is in Seattle, many homes have older piping systems, which will test positive for lead in the drinking water. It was a very expensive and time-consuming project, but I am glad I did it. Unfortunately, many will not even know they are being exposed due to the clean water reports from the city.

calibas

a year ago

When I was a child I was taught that ingesting lead caused insanity and brain damage. I was taught that the use of lead pipes was one of the main factors that caused the Roman Empire to fall. It was implied that modern man was smarter than that now and we stopped using lead in pipes.

As an adult, I learned that lead was still used in water pipes. Even the more recent "lead-free" pipes can still have a little bit of lead in them ("no more than 0.25% lead in the wetted surfaces").

1970-01-01

a year ago

If we can rip and replace all lead pipes in just 10 years, we could also bury all nearby high voltage electric cables. But we won't.

anyfoo

a year ago

That’s one of the more bizarre things in the US to me. Lead pipes have been outlawed in Bavaria in the 1800s. It’s not something anyone ever thinks about, so imagine my surprise when I moved to a major US city and was told that I should test my water.

maartn

a year ago

This is serious, right? There really still are lead drinking water pipes used in the US?

t0bia_s

a year ago

Most of lead pipes are nowadays covered with water stone inside, so amount of leaking lead should be much lower then years ago.

Replacing with new plastic pipes rise concerns about mictoplastics in water.

beej71

a year ago

Whenever I hear something like this, I wonder if the Chevron ruling allows the EPA to do things like this...?

user

a year ago

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more_corn

a year ago

Wait, we still use lead pipes for drinking water?

hanniabu

a year ago

Now can we stop using PVC for supply lines?

user

a year ago

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John23832

a year ago

Good luck in NYC lol.

If you could even attempt it, it would take 100 years.

gigatexal

a year ago

can we also wire fiber to every home and apartment in the country and screw all these ISP monopolies?

coretx

a year ago

This makes me think of the Roman Empire.

esaym

a year ago

Everyone here whining about lead pipes while drinking their $10 Starbucks latte from a brass boiler. lol

azinman2

a year ago

But what will it be replaced with? HDPE? If it’s plastic based, it seems that instead of lead we’ll get microplastics and other plasticizers. Neither are good. At least with lead is that if the pH is correctly maintained than I believe the risk is actually negligible. There isn’t anything you can do for plastic to prevent its leaching and degradation.

BenFranklin100

a year ago

I’d really love if it someone crunched the numbers and estimated how much NIMBYism contributes to lead poisoning by not allowing older homes to be replaced with newer, modern homes.

testfoobar

a year ago

Every incoming kindergartner, middle school student and high school student should be required to submit a blood lead level test to their school for data collection. This can be easily administered as part of their yearly checkup.

That data can then be used for tracking, remediation and support.

It would also reveal how much differential education outcomes are correlated to lead levels.