BLKNSLVR
3 hours ago
It's only possible to target services that have a central point of contact / administration. I don't want to invoke 'web 3.0' specifically, but the essentially headless decentralisation of encrypted communications services would be like trying to catch 'all the gas in the room' in your hand with a single clap, wouldn't it?
It feels like, even if they win this battle in the crypto wars, the real battleground has actually moved on anyway.
As an aside, that recent "Ghost Chat" infiltration[0][1] that apparently took down a few international crime gangs, wouldn't a Matrix / Synapse server and clients be a better option for encrypted communications than a custom phone/app?
[0]: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-17/afp-raids-ghost-app-f...
__MatrixMan__
3 hours ago
Most ISP's have a central point of contact / administration, and can be compelled to only forward encrypted traffic if it's explicitly permitted. I think that covers most everything, besides the chattering of a few ham radio operators here and there.
pb1729
2 hours ago
It wouldn't cover steganography. What looks like an unencrypted video file may have an encrypted message hidden in the noise.
idontwantthis
2 hours ago
Also wouldn’t cover encrypted messages sent in the clear. Exchange keys ahead of time and you’re just sending noise to each other. I guess you could still target users sending random noise under the assumption they are using encryption.
RcouF1uZ4gsC
2 hours ago
It doesn't have to be absolute. Just cross some threshold of inconvenience.
BLKNSLVR
3 hours ago
That feels like a large escalation from where we're currently at though. That would put a dagger through a majority of self-hosters.