Molitor5901
8 hours ago
Let's say you were China and wanted to undermine NVIDIA, this would certainly be one way to do it.. Initiate the affair, then make sure it blows up and the wife divorces and damages his reputation, business, etc.
nrmitchi
8 hours ago
At the same time, if you were the US and wanted to undermine Huang's opposition to the US blocking sales to China, this is would certainly be one way to do it... know of (or initiate) an affair, then paint the mistress as a Chinese spy to damage his reputation.
Not that I'm suggesting this is what happened, but in this situation, "both sides" have motivations both for/against Jenson/Nvidia, and it would be silly to blindly trust what _either side_ says.
esafak
7 hours ago
How does removing Huang help the US??
nrmitchi
7 hours ago
Huang has been very (relatively) vocal against the administration that preventing Chinese organizations from having access to Nvidia chips will 1) not really work, because they'll get them anyways, and 2) lead to a surge in availability/popularity (and inter-operability) with Nvidia's functionality.
Whether you agree with his outlook or not, he was vocally against the current administrations' priorities/opinions. Undermining his opinions as "well he was convinced of that by a spy", or even just removing him from the position where he can have influence, helps the current US administration (which, notably, is not necessarily the same thing as helping the US)
Rzor
7 hours ago
He didn't say remove, he said undermine, i.e. put him in a position of weakness. Jensen holds a lot of power.
unrented7977
7 hours ago
Same way that starting a trade war and destabilizing the global economy helps the US.
midtake
7 hours ago
As in it doesn't?
flowerthoughts
3 hours ago
The fact that everyone reporting this believe it's perfectly normal to know whether someone is a Chinese spy or not, is alarming. Right now I treat this as a plant, or something else deceptive: interesting to follow, but not worth spreading on.
poszlem
8 hours ago
On the other hand all the 3 letter agencies surely must have known about that for a long, long time. Given the timing of that leak, and the fact that he was actually quite fond of working with China, I think it's entirely possible that the "desire to undermine" him could also be coming from the US.
coderenegade
7 hours ago
You can't blackmail someone when the information you'd leverage for blackmail becomes public knowledge. At least that's my take on it. They knew, the risk escalated (or the political landscape shifted since the midterms), and so the information was leaked. I'm still surprised given the type of person he seems to be in public, but there you go.
bettercallsalad
8 hours ago
Yeah the timing of all this is Sus. Right before Trump visit to China next week.
GolfPopper
8 hours ago
And the story was broken by noted Trump kayfabe promoter Maggie Haberman.
happyopossum
8 hours ago
Nahh, it was far from broken by Haberman...
https://x.com/CulperResearch/status/2054624514193928695?a=_7...
It just got national attention after the NYT picked it up.
wewewedxfgdf
8 hours ago
>> China and wanted to undermine NVIDIA
Jensen is a friend to China and has been relentless in promoting the interests of China - why would Chairman Xi want to undermine the man who advocates strongly to sell him GPUs and chips?
Nevermark
8 hours ago
There are so many actors with interests relevant to something this potentially impactful, that any simple framing is unlikely to reflect reality.
But it is still a great point.
Xi and Huang appear to be strongly and consistently aligned with respect to Chinese access to SOTA nVidia, each with their own natural motivations (no need for any conspiracy here).
Strong strategic alignment, even without conspiracy, is highly likely to result in independent uncoordinated acts of cooperation. Interesting dynamics can result. Any actor (national, international or "smaller") with interests in the technology competition will be watching this space closely. And some will act, for their own reasons.