anonymous908213
5 hours ago
Luna is unusable garbage. When I see people in threads talking about how useful Luna is for all of their tasks and it's so cheap and fast, it reads to me like people relating anecdotes about how tasty the garbage scraps they're eating out of the dumpster behind McD's are. Sol Max is the threshold of "just barely usable", and even then it's certainly not what the people are hyping it up to be.
> But GPT also offers a $100 plan with five times the usage limits. And how long would that last me?
Sol usage is basically unlimited on the $100 plan if you're human-in-the-loop, reviewing the code, and not doing some useless Gas Town crime against humanity.
willio58
5 hours ago
I’ve been slowly converting my org to use opus 5.5 as default over sonnet and the difference is night and day. More usage, because it does shit better the first time. Less cost, because it does shit better the first time. It’s literally been the thing that’s kicked our org in the pants to actually adopt agentic methodology at scale.
perching_aix
4 hours ago
pretty much this, though i did notice a rebound where it can make people meander further into overengineering things, creating a bit of an induced demand
j45
2 hours ago
remind opus to not over-enjoy problems
bulbar
an hour ago
I use Sol 6.1 Max when it's simple to verify the result and for relatively easy stuff and otherwise Opus 5.5.
I have managed to burn 500 GitHub credits on a task with Sol 6.1 Max, but mostly it's below 10 for short stuff. Opus typically being more expensive by a factor of 5-10.
So, full agreement.
lnkdinsuxs
5 hours ago
> Luna is unusable garbage
What are some uses for which you found Luna to be unusable garbage?
From my side, I use Harbor to score tasks and Luna certainly performs when the prompt is either well or overspecified.
thierrydamiba
5 hours ago
For me I’d trust Luna to do anything I would a high school student but once we get to college I lose faith.
josh-wrale
5 hours ago
Codex, 6.1 Terra Ultra gets pretty impressive mileage on my plan.
gadflyinyoureye
4 hours ago
We have dramatically different experiences. I use specification driven design. I have Sol or Opus designed a specification, the plan, and the task breakdown. I then use Luna as the implementation agent. It is told to do test driven development. I have tasks to run tests on just the modified code. Luna knocks it out of the park pretty much every time.
My biggest complaint is that it melds IO concerns such as timeout, with business requirements. Normally, I just to put that in the IO layer. After that, it’s basically done.
Given my pattern, a new feature normally involves Luna creating 20 to 50 files. After it thinks it’s done with its work, a Sol agent will review the code. This loop goes twice. If there’s still issues, I have to deal with them. I’ve not had to deal with them.
This when I’m at work. At home I do pretty much this but with GLM 5.3 Flash. Even less money.
epolanski
5 hours ago
Luna is as great and extremely efficient at exactly what OpenAI advertises it to be good at: focused tasks, small edits, automations.
If it's used for that then using anything more powerful is just inefficient usage of your tokens.
anonymous908213
5 hours ago
I have found in my own benchmarks that a simple prompt which has a single constraint is reliably ignored by Luna, even on Max, even with another Luna agent reviewing with instructions to check the output against the constraint, at which point they OK it anyways. There is not a single task of any scale I can trust it not to fuck up.
greenavocado
5 hours ago
In my private coding benchmark Luna Low effort is beaten by Qwen 3.8 Flash Next Coder IQ_1 served by Strata locally https://github.com/niko1221/strata
Luna medium effort is very slightly better than its output and completes tasks in 5-10x less time.
slopinthebag
4 hours ago
maybe you just aren't very good at prompting and need the highest level of intelligence possible to kind of make it work?
for myself anything over medium overthinks and is worse.
anonymous908213
4 hours ago
Oh, fuck off. For one, I work in an LLM startup and work on the harness for our own models, and we're 8-digit profitable, so I'd say I know a thing or two about prompting. For two, there is no prompt that makes Luna work. It ignores your fucking prompt. The OP related how Cursor's model has a quotation mark tic and blatantly ignored a single constraint not to use quotation marks. Luna also has the same deficiency. You can give it a single paragraph prompt with a single sentence constraint not to do X and it will do X every time if it's in the average path for the prompt.
slopinthebag
3 hours ago
sorry my comment was a bit rude. what i meant was that if you're not vibe coding and instead doing a lot of the architectural work yourself, the less powerful models can still be quite effective for doing the grunt work.
when i built my own harness i had to use sol 6.1 medium, luna, deepseek, etc made too many mistakes, but i was full-on vibecoding it. in other projects when i put more effort into it, models like luna, deepseek, etc do just fine.