6thbit
3 days ago
It feels like we hit an inflection point in the last week or so. Kind of a large tidal wave to crash on the coast, but likely not the tsunami yet. I hope.
If you are running services and don't yet have an easy way to react to these things with swift process defined, I hope you don't like to sleep.
georgyo
2 days ago
This isn't Linode getting attacked, it is telling customers that this zero click RCE CVE is pretty serious. You should patch ASAP.
Did you know that GO defaults to listening on TCP connections with MPTCP, so anyone running GO programs listening on the internet (Caddy, traffic, etc) and are on an unpatched kernel now have a way to from attackers to get root on that box?
Even if you're not using MPTCP, this functions as a DOS attack.
It's a very bad CVE, so yes. Follow the advisor and patch.
joecool1029
3 days ago
> It feels like we hit an inflection point in the last week or so.
This isn’t a new thing for Linode. A customer service panel vulnerability in the past was the reason Bitcoinica got hacked in the early bitcoin days: https://spectrum.ieee.org/thousands-of-bitcoins-stolen-in-a-...
ianmarcinkowski
2 days ago
What if the "inflection point" is just all of the low-hanging fruit that can be detected by agentic vulnerability scanning? If the low-hanging CVEs get patched we might not see a tsunami.
6thbit
2 days ago
I really hope you’re right!
And even patching the ‘small’ cves will take us for a spin as it already has. Then there can be specific low hanging fruits that chained together make a splash.
FuckButtons
3 days ago
When mythos was released - I guesstimated that we had 6 months until hackers had similar enough capabilities that we would start to see real problems in the wild. Unless there is some change in the trend line things are about to get really quite spectacular.
rpcope1
3 days ago
I'm just waiting for someone to drop a real zero day on openssh or openvpn for before the real pants pooping starts.
keyle
3 days ago
Tidal waves are one thing, this is a tsunami.
lifeisloving
3 days ago
Its really not that hard to secure your servers, especially if your not a high value target. If you are a high value target, you should have security professionals on staff.
I dont think my security posture is all that much different than it was last year. Use a Secret Manager and or encryption, have backups, strong firewall rules, use canaries of some kind.
If anything llms are making security worse because there's more people offloading their thinking on llms, or people that skipped some steps in their learning journey because they just ask the llm to do everything. I dont think its necessarily because attackers have llms now, but that contributes.
Edit:
Damn Im getting mega downvoted for saying this. So are people of just at a consensus that there's nothing you can do? That we're in security armagedon???
Have you ever thought to consider that security took hit along with the general degradation of software because of AI??
moscoe
3 days ago
You are literally the everything is fine meme. I admire your confidence. I never realized it was so simple!
UqWBcuFx6NV4r
3 days ago
Is this like when people say “it’s not that hard to write memory-safe C”, and then nobody does? I take this as actually meaning: “I feel that I can keep my shit locked down.”. Whether or not that’s true, which i’m skeptical of, plenty of OTHER people can’t, or won’t, or whatever. That’s the reality.
To speak to your edit: this is false equivalency. You can still decrease the odds of being hit. There are still better and worse ways to address security.
mort96
3 days ago
Can you tell me what I should be doing differently then? I just host some services, among them Nextcloud that's written in PHP, protected by SSL, on a server running Linux. And I feel like the past week has been a lots
tbrownaw
3 days ago
It's tedious, which is a particular kind of being hard.
sanex
3 days ago
I agree but disagree about the cause. People have always been bad at security and code in general.
amelius
3 days ago
Have you not heard of supply chain attacks?
bvcp
3 days ago
if anything we should be using ai to find this stuff before the bad actors, too bad the model providers are hell bent on regulatory capture via fear
OhMeadhbh
2 days ago
I know I'll get downvoted for this, but here goes. I was in a position to see some of the mythos derived results early. In my organization everyone was running around with their hair on fire. I asked whether or not any of the vulnerabilities mythos found were also found with existing static analysis tools. The result was blink blink "what are static analysis tools?"
I'm not saying mythos didn't find anything new, but several people who should have known better were not using SAST/DAST tools to find potential vulnerabilities before pushing their code into the great unknown. One person I talked to said they didn't bother because GitHub automatically runs SAST tools against pull requests. I looked. Their CICD pipeline had no such tool configured. I'm pretty sure it's more appropriate to say GitHub CAN run SAST/DAST tools, if you configure it, but it won't run SAST/DAST tools by default.
This was a very small sample, but I wonder how common this type of confusion is.
bvcp
2 days ago
this is the problem with prohibition we all know ai tools can be useless and amazing depending how you use them. bad actors aren’t constrained to the one way anthropic uses them or the way they will let us use them, so the good guys are at the mercy of their capabilities. i would feel a-lot safer with more access in more hands than the current climate. to your point about existing security tools, we all know tools make ai even more capable so we shouldnt be framing it as a replacement in either direction but again ai orchestration using these tools and improving them. look at anyps5 do we expect ai could do this from a cold prompt? or is it the pattern they deployed plus the ai capabilities that made it possible. cyber security with ai will follow the same patterns. bad guys have to win once and good guys have to win every time making the tool access asymmetric just makes that even harder. doing that under the guide of safety is mind boggling.
LaurensBER
3 days ago
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