Keeping the Bonfires Lit

20 pointsposted 4 days ago
by Petiver

11 Comments

vintagedave

2 days ago

> Deeply political in its origins, [Bonfire Night] was born of a specific moment of national crisis in the 17th century. Does it still resonate today, when the narratives of our national history are ever more contested?

It's a mildly horrific celebration, with its tradition of burning an effigy (Guy Fawkes.) The man himself was not executed by fire, but in the end by hanging, I think. Wikipedia has some unpleasant details of what was planned for him.

Yet today, effigies of other people are placed on the fire. I feel it is a relevant festival, in that unlike Halloween (spooky ghosts, commercial) it's a deeply political festival, the result of failed revolution. It's a celebration of the establishment winning, and yet somehow people see it more as a celebration of the attempt.

comrade1234

2 days ago

Very little information in that article. For example I would have expected something about Samhain - precursor to British Halloween in Ireland, Scotland, Celtic areas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samhain

clickety_clack

2 days ago

Strange to call it “British” when it originated in Ireland.

edoceo

2 days ago

British, from British Isles, of which Ireland is one. And Scotland is on the other big one. And the Celts were all around there.

hedora

2 days ago

So, I had to look up Bonfire night. I think the article is about Guy Fawkes Night. Guy Fawkes masks became popular here in the US a few year ago, and are still reasonably common. Second Halloween with political effigies and big fires seems like it could do well, though it'd probably land on Election Day...

vintagedave

2 days ago

That would have been due to V for Vendetta, which was heavily inspired by the story of Guy Fawkes.

4ndrewl

2 days ago

And now too Diwali, the festival of light, is very popular in many parts of the UK - the only constant is change!

FiniteField

2 days ago

Not particularly amongst the remaining indigenous-populated areas, it's only really a thing in the areas that have had large Indian-heritage populations transplanted there.

user

2 days ago

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