gaiagraphia
5 hours ago
Not just a vote on independence:
>These figures are regularly updating, and could change as the count goes on.
>It is now 02:15 local time (04:15 EST/09:15 BST), here's a look at what the early results have been indicating as of the last half hour:
- Referendum: Should Alberta remain a province of Canada? Option one (remain) 1,107,558, option 2 346,261
- Do you support the government of Alberta taking increased control of immigration? Yes, 405,648, no 299,946
- Do you support a law saying only Canadian citizens being eligible for certain social services? Yes 399, 675, No 267,770
- Do you support a law saying all people with non permanent legal immigration have to have lived in Alberta for at least a year before qualifying for province funded social support programs? Yes 282,373, No 210,102
- Do you support the government of Alberta charging those with non-permanent immigration status in the province for use of health and eucation systems? Yes 223,342, No 168,873
- Do you support introducing voter ID for Alberta elections? Yes 202,367, No 130, 494
- Do you support the Alberta government working with other provinces to make amendments to the Canadian constitution? Yes, 141, 296, No 137,697
- Do you support the Alberta government in working with other willing provinces to amend Canada's constitution to abolish the unelected federal senate? Yes 120,311, No, 106, 538
- Do you support the Alberta government working with other provinces to allow provinces to opt out of federal programs? Yes 117,128, No, 123,052
- Do you support the Alberta government working with other willing provinces to amend the constitution to better protect provincial rights from federal interference? Yes 119,149, No 116,141
smcg
12 minutes ago
Wow, I didn't realize until now how sparsely populated Alberta is. Only 5 million people in a huge area and a little over 1m voters in this referendum. And some of them are worried about immigration?! Myanmar is a similar area and has 10 times as many people as Alberta.
gucci-on-fleek
4 hours ago
> - Do you support introducing voter ID for Alberta elections?
I realized that you copied that from BBC, but that's not a correct summary of the question. The official wording [0] of that question is
> 5. Do you support the Government of Alberta introducing a law requiring individuals to provide proof of citizenship, such as a passport, birth certificate or citizenship card, to vote in an Alberta provincial election?
Voter ID is already required for elections [1], but proof of citizenship is not. The vast majority of people (>90% in the previous elections that I worked at) used their drivers' licences as ID, but these don't list your citizenship. And the problem with passports and birth certificates is that they don't show your address (which is required to ensure that you're voting in the correct riding), so they also wouldn't be sufficient.
> - Do you support the Alberta government working with other provinces to allow provinces to opt out of federal programs?
That's also not a correct summary. Provinces are already allowed to opt out of most federally-funded but provincially-administered programs, but nobody wants to do so since that means losing out on the federal funding. The official wording of that question [0] was actually
> 8. Do you support the Government of Alberta working with the governments of other willing provinces to amend the Canadian Constitution to allow provinces to opt out of federal programs that intrude on provincial jurisdiction such as health care, education, and social services, without a province losing any of the associated federal funding for use in its social programs?
So this question is actually asking if Alberta should be allowed to opt out of the federal governments conditions without also opting out of the funding.
[0]: https://www.elections.ab.ca/elections/referendum/
[1]: https://www.elections.ab.ca/voters/id-required-to-vote/
gaiagraphia
an hour ago
Thanks for the corrections. Yeah, was quite the terrible summary from the BBC looking back. Weird formatting, typos...
hdjdnxjzhzhs
4 hours ago
Your use of "option one" and "option 2" made those voter numbers harder to grok
gucci-on-fleek
4 hours ago
The OP copied that verbatim from the BBC article. "Remain" is an accurate summary of option 1, but option 2 is worded weirdly enough that it's kinda tricky to summarize. The official wording [0] was:
> 10. Should Alberta remain a province of Canada, or should the Government of Alberta commence the legal process required under the Canadian Constitution to hold a binding provincial referendum on whether or not Alberta should separate from Canada?
> Option 1: Alberta should remain a province of Canada.
> Option 2: The Government of Alberta should commence the legal process required under the Canadian Constitution to hold a binding provincial referendum on whether or not Alberta should separate from Canada.
I suppose that "leave" would be a mostly accurate one-word summary, but that wouldn't really be quite correct since the question was if we should have another referendum where we could decide to leave or not, not whether Alberta should succeed immediately.