dash2
12 hours ago
>For example, “You can’t beat the market, dollar-cost average into index funds!” is the kind of viral story that will earn you nods of approval from millennials and upvotes on Reddit.
>Pattern matching, on the other hand, can drive you to make moves like an advanced chess engine. Moves that others find alien and incomprehensible.
Sure. Index funds is a viral story which has a lot of rigorous data behind it. As for the advanced chess engine of intuition... ever heard of Fooled By Randomness?
incognition
12 hours ago
exactly. If you're engaging in a market, realize that approximately 90% of active participants will lose money in an efficient market.
sdeframond
10 hours ago
A strange game. The most likely winning move is... not to play.
icantevenhold
10 hours ago
It’s weird - my peers always say I’m stupid for not investing my idle money in the various (stock) markets and the gains they show seem to confirm that - but ITT the sentiment seems to be quite different.
To be honest i cant be bothered is the real reason I don’t play but maybe it’s the winning move?
digital-cygnet
5 hours ago
"You can't beat the market -- dollar cost average into index funds" is the sentiment I get from this thread, and also the one I agree with. Actively trying to pick stocks, unless you have extreme interest, ability, and resources to do so is hard. Betting on, basically, "the whole stock market" is a pretty good idea, or at least better than letting inflation take daily bites out of your cash. This is one where I think the received, mainstream wisdom (diversify, invest-don't-trade, investing should be boring, etc) is basically right.
mitxela
9 hours ago
Ponzi schemes can go up exponentially, until they're suddenly at zero.
w10-1
10 hours ago
I think the comment was to not play actively.
It's like arguing with God: he's got better info that you.
gingersnap
9 hours ago
Greetings professor Falken
dominotw
9 hours ago
is 10% winner random or skill ?
mitxela
9 hours ago
Some random, some skill. The more people are following formulaic advice, the more opportunity there is to take their money with skill.
kelseyfrog
11 hours ago
I love technical investors. They're so easy to make money off of. Even the names. It's tarot for men:
Big Black Candle, Big White Candle, Black Body, White Body, Doji, Long-Legged Doji, Dragonfly Doji, Gravestone Doji, Hammer, Hanging Man, Inverted Hammer, Shooting Star, Long Upper Shadow, Long Lower Shadow, Marubozu, Spinning Top, Shaven Head, Shaven Bottom, Bearish Harami, Bullish Harami, Bearish Harami Cross, Bullish Harami Cross, Engulfing Bearish Line, Engulfing Bullish, Bearish 3-Method Formation, Bullish 3-Method Formation, Evening Star, Evening Doji Starv Morning Star, Morning Doji Star, Falling Window, Rising Window, Three black crows, Three White Soldiers, On Neckline, Doji Star, Tweezer Tops, Tweezer Bottoms, Dark Cloud Cover, Piercing Line, Darth Maul, Judas Candle, Island reversal
It's great that people think these are real.
Infernal
10 hours ago
How is money easily made off of adherents to these TA methods?
serioussecurity
9 hours ago
High frequency trading shops like Jane Street.
Their brokerage dark pools their trades and front runs them.
Frequently they get pump-and-dumped based on some bullshit they read on Reddit.
These people lose money relative to index funds, so even putting money in index funds will let you take advantage of them.
anjel
9 hours ago
By becoming their counterparty
Nashooo
11 hours ago
Man those quotes are so clearly AI slop as well. Surface sounds interesting but there is no critical thought behind it.
icantevenhold
10 hours ago
Seeing that it was written 2+ years ago I don’t think AI was involved a lot. Maybe my memory is wrong but back then it wasn’t all that capable