nxobject
2 days ago
I suspect the fact that the Netherlands hosts the ICC might have made this a little more salient, too.
eigenspace
a day ago
It's especially funny that Microsoft has been swearing up and down that they can offer "sovereign" infrastructure in Europe, and yet the moment Trump comes calling they trip over themselves to implement his sanctions against the ICC.
wolvoleo
a day ago
Encryption wise they do have a feature called customer key which allows zero knowledge processing on their side.
However turning this on reduces the feature set of m365 massively so almost nobody actually uses it.
eigenspace
a day ago
That's a privacy claim which is irrelevant to the question of sovereignty. Even with zero-knowledge processing, they can still just close your account and stop providing any service after a phone-call from the US president.
Vital government functions cannot be allowed to run on this type of infrastructure, it's ridiculous.
atoav
a day ago
I'd love to hear from any US company that makes such a claim, how they will deal if forced by their government to comply due to the patriot act.
In the end the question is very simple, aside from the rare idealist company all companies seek to earn money. How big of a hit would they be willing to take to defend the rights of their foreign customers?
As a European by this point I find US companies about as trustworthy as Chinese ones, if not more so. With Chinese companies you have the Chinese government as a potential attacker. With US companies you have the US government as a potential attacker. Both is bad, but with US companies I feel that they also have a higher tendency to fuck you over as the customer or to change the deal after the fact. Sure usually they should respect EU law when doing business in theEU, but how well is that working out?
wolvoleo
a day ago
Yes at least the Chinese government is pretty consistent. They don't change direction in a day because someone wakes up on the wrong side of the bed.
In the long term this is probably more of a risk because the Chinese strategy actually has long-term planning behind it while the American one is random and a lot of their actions harm themselves more than anyone else. China is the best in the world at playing the long game.
But in the short term the Chinese are more dependable.