Aransentin
10 hours ago
When people say we don't understand how LLMs work, it's that we don't understand why they take the decisions they do (beyond some quite rudimentary interpretability stuff), not that we don't understand the underlying architecture. If we understood the models we could monitor them and make them behave how we wanted. The recent events pretty decisively show that we can't.
If you say that we "understand the brain" because we understand how a neuron works, you'd be using "understand" in a way that mislead everyone reading that sentence.
argee
10 hours ago
> If we understood the models we could monitor them and make them behave how we wanted.
Charlie Munger's famous rule is: "Never, ever, think about something else when you should be thinking about the power of incentives."
So is it that we...can't? Or something else?
> If you say that we "understand the brain" because we understand how a neuron works, you'd be using "understand" in a way that mislead everyone reading that sentence.
What if we say we "understand the brain" because we can build one on demand?
Aransentin
9 hours ago
Something else? Like the companies could align their models but chose not to because they're incentivised otherwise? Clearly not; e.g. OpenAI wasn't even aware that their models had hacked Hugging Face before that was reported to the FBI. And they'd never invent these hacky band-aid solutions like "prevent models from injecting malicious code in GET requests by limiting the URL length" if they could actually control what the models did.
And being able to build something is not the same as understanding it, no.