Chapter 1 of "Ways of Seeing" by John Berger (1972)

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by rafael859

15 Comments

tclancy

9 hours ago

I found the youtube copy of the series to be great - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-4LwAuTw7k

rafael859

3 hours ago

I recommend the book over the series. It was written after the original series aired, and gives more space to some interesting topics. For instance I don't recall the series discussing museum goers beliefs about museums.

eecc

9 hours ago

yep, and Sony Music Entertainment auto-ensured shareholder value was maximized

jemdiggity

8 hours ago

I found Berger's writing pretty hard to digest. But thanks for the inspiration — will try again.

yzydserd

8 hours ago

I came to Berger through Sontag’s On Photography. An easier companion.

trimethylpurine

8 hours ago

Berger had no credentials or education in anthropology or any science whatsoever but invented a whole movement that I think doesn't carry any scientific weight. His reputation is truly undeserved.

I think the fact that his work has been largely adopted by media experts, and is taught as dogma in film/media studies course work at the college level should be a strong signal that our ideas as a society about sex and body image are severely distorted and deeply problematic. Not in light of his work but because of it.

saagarjha

2 hours ago

His work is most definitely not taught as dogma. I assure you, there are plenty of courses that will be happy to explain to you about the old masters.

wonnage

4 hours ago

I’m confused, so now that he is considered influential in the fields he lacked credentials for how is that in any way a negative

Unless you think those fields were scientifically rigorous until they decided to adopt his ideas?

Maybe you just disagree with the existence of “male gaze”

tclancy

6 hours ago

Can you expand on that and point me at resources in this topic? Interesting.

pmoriarty

9 hours ago

> It is seeing which establishes our place in the surrounding world

Do blind people not have a place in the surrounding world?

yzydserd

8 hours ago

Berger’s way of ‘seeing’ is to situate yourself in the time and place, less ocular than you may assume. And then he wrote the touching Cataracts, about how he lost his vision and gained a new way to see. He regained his vision and soon died. Possibly this is why you’ve been downvoted.

trimethylpurine

8 hours ago

If that's true then the down votes themselves are beautifully and ironically tone def in regards to Berger's advocacy of awareness of context and medium in which the viewer is interpreting the content.