igor47
7 hours ago
> Unfortunately, Nadella also refers to AI as “super intelligence” throughout the post.
What's the deal with these clowns? Nadella's estimated net worth is like $600M. Is that still not enough for him to buy himself a spine?
kumarvvr
7 hours ago
At 600M, if keeping a spine has a risk of slight reduction in that wealth, then the spine is thrown out in a jiffy.
No rich man or woman is a friend of society.
That is why governments fear revolt from the poor. They have nothing more to lose.
minraws
an hour ago
That's the thing though, he has $600M dollars worth of reasons to bend.
People think that money makes you strong, maybe it does but only upto like a couple million dollars if at all, well whatever amount will give you a lifetime of comfortable life, after that it's all about how to preserve or make more money.
The more you have the more reason you have to do the wrong thing.
dumberquestions
7 hours ago
Not having a spine goes a long way when you're trying to make billions.
khazhoux
7 hours ago
If he stands up to Trump, Trump declares Microsoft a national security threat and decimates the company. That’s what this is about.
thih9
3 hours ago
On one hand I don’t mind the government keeping corporations in check. On the other, the government doing business via random threats and bullying seems worse than corporations.
timcobb
7 hours ago
No he's an automaton optimizing for status
jareklupinski
an hour ago
its not actually 600M dollars, just promises and notes
the second he tries to cash out even a fraction of that, it'll start becoming worth less and less
gumby
5 hours ago
Otherwise suddenly MS is excluded from government contracts (even ones awarded or in progress), justice department will start attacking it etc.
imartin2k
4 hours ago
To me, this is a confirmation of how much of a free man I am and how unfree these tech billionaires and CEOs are. Because I can choose to say AI, whereas they seemingly cannot.
tbrownaw
7 hours ago
I would expect people selling AI to like that term for marketing reasons, completely independent of their opinion of the person who provided a crystallization point to organize the terminology change around.
bushbaba
7 hours ago
You assume he’s a human and not a super intelligent being himself
Xirdus
7 hours ago
I am pretty sure he's not super intelligent.
NordStreamYacht
7 hours ago
He has to keep The Orange House happy.
dudeinjapan
7 hours ago
ELI5 why he needs to please the Dutch royal family?
anon7725
7 hours ago
The Orange House, not the House of Orange.
See also: Peoples’ Front of Judea vs Judean Peoples Front.
blululu
6 hours ago
Super Intelligence is a term of art that has been around for a few decades now. Nick Bostrom gave a the canonical definition for it almost 30 years ago. Super Intelligence is more relevant to the concerns articulated in this article than AI which is rather broad in its purview. Maybe this is Trump stuff? I don't know. If it were something stupid like Freedom Intelligence then I'd be pretty annoyed, but there is a lot of plausible deniability that Super Intelligence is just a better term for what we're all freaking out about. A world where GPT 4 hits scaling limits and it costs $500 a month to run is definitely AI but none of the catastrophes emerge at that level of intelligence. That would actually be a pretty sweet world. But now we get to have our whole civilization ground up into dust by super intelligence instead.
hollowonepl
6 hours ago
600M is not that much actually, just three proper celebrity houses in LA or sth… he’s still poor-man to run a trillion dollar company. SteveB had better deal out that responsibility.
perelin
5 hours ago
Was also wondering. Sounds low. Forbes puts him around 1.4B. Still lowish compared to his CEO peers. https://www.forbes.com/profile/satya-nadella/
downrightmike
6 hours ago
Actual Indians > Super Indians
coliveira
7 hours ago
He wouldn't have this net worth if he ever had a spine. Mind you, he's very tough to people under him, and that's a very important characteristic of this kind of people, but he really doesn't have a spine.
8note
6 hours ago
the spine here is going with a deeply unpopular guy's dumb opinions and getting the hate mail
khazhoux
7 hours ago
His own net worth isn’t the point.
Bend the knee or Trump will destroy your company. And every Republican in Congress is cool with that.
blagie
7 hours ago
I don't quite see the problem here.
My AI is regularly solving master's thesis level, and sometimes Ph.D thesis level problems for the purpose of, e.g. routine tasks like filling out random paperwork.
It's been very odd.
I'd only assume Nadella has access to more advanced models than I do, just as much as I have more advanced models than my relatives.
UnlockedSecrets
7 hours ago
Can you ask your AI to answer the ultimate question, that being the answer to life, the universe, and everything?
jonah
6 hours ago
I hadn't tried that question before. Gemini knew the answer.
idiotsecant
7 hours ago
Because it's a political loyalty test. Nobody started using it organically until they were ordered to in order to prove their loyalty.
Using it is embarrassing.
blagie
4 hours ago
I feel like I'm missing some context. A lot of context.
Whose loyalty test? How?
I mostly heard "super intelligence" a long, long time ago in the context of work on AI / philosophy / futurism which, honestly, sounded pretty detached until the current deep learning sprint, and now sounds pretty prophetic.
card_zero
3 hours ago
You missed yesterday's edict? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50019684
Wait, the renaming was from a speech on 11 September in fact, I lost track.
blagie
3 hours ago
Yes, I did miss it.
Thank you.
That sucks. It's a helpful term. Now, it's politicized.
dofm
6 hours ago
It's a bit more than a mere loyalty test, in that Trump knows it is humiliating for them to listen to him on anything like this.
He knows humiliation (from his father and from Putin) and he loves to dish it out to others.
This is Reek, basically.
Terr_
6 hours ago
Right, and humiliation rituals are not just about the authoritarian's ego, they do damage that the authoritarian exploits.
People who comply scar their reputation and trustworthiness, so that it's harder for them to build any alliance against the authoritarian in the future, ex: "We all know Bob lied to keep his job... But if they threaten his job again, doesn't that mean he might lie to us too?"