What belief is being expressed in your comments? That if someone wins a military conflict, any action they took is justified? That seems like either moral relativism or ahistorical, blind patriotism. The Soviets also won that war -- does that mean they were justified in their constellations of gulags?
If anything, the more apt historical comparison is to the Czechoslovakian and Polish partisans who wanted nothing less than to harry the Germans on (or within) their borders before the war. The British and French ambassadors (i.e. Qatar, etc) took great pains to try and convince the Polish and Czechoslovakian governments to restrain their partisans from attacking German people or positions, since they suspected Germany would use any and all provocation, no matter how small, as a casus belli. Anyone who's read a bit of WW2 history also knows how often the German government attempted to engineer exactly these kinds of events to justify their aggression.
It sounds straight out of the Likud playbook, doesn't it? But in what universe does an attack that kills 1000 people, a good number of them active duty soldiers, justify killing and maiming over 100,000 civilians and leveling hundreds of thousands of buildings? If the shoe were on the other foot, this implies Hamas also has the moral imperative to do just the same to Israel. That's moral relativism for you.
Perhaps Europe had a better understanding of this topic when they instituted the Geneva Conventions and other international humanitarian law after the war than we do today, 100 years out, trying to now claim none of it actually matters and the means justify the ends.
History didn't start on October 7th.
this is not war, it is genocide
It is war and why did you feel the need to create an account just to repeat this false claim? The term "genocide" can now be added to the list of terms which have lost they meaning like racist, nazi, fascist, white supremacist and all those other labels which are bandied around willy-nilly. Just use your real account, what are you afraid of?
was always a lurker so never had an account. I just think it's important to counter Israel's misinformation campaign :) very telling you think those words have lost their meaning though. I don't think we need further discussion
Well yes we do need more discussion because each of these words used to indicate serious wrongdoings on the part of the accused while nowadays they are used to indicate "strong disagreement" at most. What, now, if a real nazi were to appear? You've been calling so many people nazi for nothing more than ideological disagreements that people just treat it as a hooting car alarm: "yeah sure, shut up already, we've heard you before and it never meant anything so stop bothering us". Good for the nazi but had for the rest of us.
It’s not genocide in any way, shape or form. Please use other sources than TikTok.
Try using another source than Wikipedia which is edited by "interested groups" and as such not a reliable source for contentious issues like this one.
good thing there's 100+ cited sources in that article
What, succinctly, is your point? You first claimed that this was not a genocide, then posted a link to a list of other genocides. Are you saying that none of the genocides in your list happened? Or that they are miscategorized?
My point is that wikis are not reliable sources no matter how many sources they link to. You'd have to check all the other sources to verify their veracity and that only gets harder the more sources are linked.
Imagine this was Jerusalem
would you say the same?