Berlin-based Langdock moves its parent company from the US to Germany

49 pointsposted 8 hours ago
by jethronethro
(euronews.com)

20 Comments

thih9

5 hours ago

It’s not surprising. With abrupt changes regarding tariffs, policies and AI in particular, US became increasingly unstable.

Perhaps trust could be regained if the country was renamed to Lower Canada by popular vote. I’m not sure anything else would help at this point.

alfiedotwtf

4 hours ago

Unstable? I think you mean actively hostile… unless of course you’re Russia or North Korea

Georgelemental

2 hours ago

Amazes me that, after the events of the past 3 years, so many people still think Russia is the major foreign influence on American politics.

techgnosis

2 hours ago

Who are you implying it is? China? Iran? NK? Someone else?

booi

7 hours ago

let me guess.. regulatory capture?

fakedang

7 hours ago

Maybe don't guess and read the article? European data sovereignty and CLOUD act.

guywithahat

6 hours ago

But "European data sovereignty" is regulatory capture, although it sort of reads like they had a US parent company to attend y combinator and raise money, but are now moving fully to Berlin, which is what they intended from the start.

1718627440

6 hours ago

Isn't regulatory capture when a company shapes regulation to achieve business interests? How is this the case here?

nickff

5 hours ago

Excluding foreign competitors is a classic ‘regulatory capture’-style approach. Regulatory capture is (typically) a ‘bootleggers and baptists’ scenario where there are both good and bad reasons to enact the rules.

greggoB

6 hours ago

> But "European data sovereignty" is regulatory capture

This doesn't match my understanding of regulatory capture [0] - is there any evidence that this company specifically orchestrated the EU's data protection laws in order to benefit from by blocking out competitors? Would be unexpected, since laws like GDPR predate its founding.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture

fakedang

4 hours ago

The difference between data sovereignty and regulatory capture is that the populace generally wants data sovereignty. The populace does not want big corporations dictating the rules of the trade.

dalemhurley

6 hours ago

Sovereign AI is going to be the next frontier. It’s apparent that all nations need to prepare themselves for possible challenges from foreign hyperscalers facing laws that are being rushed through to alleviate fear caused by fear mongers.

cyanydeez

5 hours ago

dont you mean laws being completed ignored by hyperscalers?

vrganj

7 hours ago

> US laws, including the Cloud Act, have created concerns across the market that American authorities could seek access to customer data.

The CLOUD Act is becoming a bigger and bigger deal here in Europe. It definitely kills deals.

leonidasrup

6 hours ago

"Is the CLOUD Act only applicable to U.S. cloud service providers?"

"No. The CLOUD Act applies to all electronic communication service or remote computing service providers that operate or have a legal presence in the U.S. For example, the CLOUD Act is also applicable to a cloud service provider that is headquartered in the EU and has operations in the United State"

https://aws.amazon.com/compliance/cloud-act/

buildfocus

6 hours ago

Seems intentionally misleading. While I agree exposure to US surveillance in non-US providers likely isn't zero, it's significantly harder for the US to do this internationally for legal, practical & political reasons. AWS is not a neutral voice on their competitor's limitations.

1718627440

5 hours ago

> also applicable to a cloud service provider that is headquartered in the EU and has operations in the United State(sic)

As if any company isn't going to create a subsidiary for that.

bananzamba

4 hours ago

The difference is with European data stored by American companies

gleezard

5 hours ago

This is an amusing puff piece. I’m reading through it waiting for them to pull the other one.