When Google Cuts Off Access: Poland and the World

36 pointsposted 5 hours ago
by marekfocus

30 Comments

ShadowOfThePit

2 hours ago

This is exceessively verbose, repetitive and ai-written (translated?). I got lost half-way through because it keeps going on random, barely-related tangents.

- What do I care about your problems with Anthropic? It's not even a good comparison because apparently the bank did everything.

- What does it matter who owns how many shares of Google in Poland, or who used to be in charge of it? What does it matter that she apparently is in the "Forbes 50 after 50 list", and that she left "voluntarily and with honours"??

- Why randomly insult Ireland? "(...) and the Irish company replies at an Irish company’s pace, if at all." As if going at a snail's pace was a problem of being Irish, and not a global conglomerate.

- Why describe in intricate detail how European laws are (going to be) implemented in Poland? And how the President can (and did) veto their implementation??

Having skimmed the last half of the post, I ultimately see this as fundamentally righteous, but also obsessive and borderline autistic crusade against big corpo.

Besides, sending 100 mails in four minutes is extreme. 99 media addresses? I doubt I could even find that many media organizations that care about someone getting their Google account blocked!

immibis2

3 hours ago

This is not the first time someone has experienced this and written or generated an article on the Internet which made front-page HN. Nor is it the one hundred thousandth time this someone has experienced this and not written or generated an article, or had the article not reach front-page HN.

At least this person is suing Google for it. Under EU law, they might actually win.

But why is the article AI-written? That is not helping your case.

cj

3 hours ago

> why is the article AI-written?

Can you share what the tells are?

I am not seeing obvious tells. And I see multiple tells that clearly are NOT AI, like imperfect sentence structure.

It seems information dense, and doesn't seem like an obviously shit article?

If you're going to complain, can you explain what you're complaining about?

avazhi

2 hours ago

It's pretty blatant, but just have a glance at the subheadings to remove any doubt.

cj

2 hours ago

Examples?

user

2 hours ago

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avazhi

2 hours ago

I just gave them to you. I'm not gonna copy paste shit you can easily find yourself on the page, bud.

applfanboysbgon

3 hours ago

At a certain point you need to develop your own media literacy. The article is literally dripping with Claudisms in every line.

cj

2 hours ago

Examples?

applfanboysbgon

2 hours ago

Your media literacy training can start with skimming headings. When every heading sounds like Buzzfeed clickbait, emphasizing and contrasting numbers with a sort of faux-punchiness to them, or overusing "the" to make things sound more definitive than they actually are, or... on and on, it really couldn't be more obvious.

> Six emails, one button

> The hotline sends you to the office. The office sends you to the hotline.

> The bank could. Google couldn't.

> Three companies at one address

> A company wih 105 million in capital, five employees and zero website

> The address Google did not show its customers for two and a half years

> People who left, and people who came

> Germany: the court that ordered the data to be returned

> Ireland: where the other party to the agreement lives

> What disappears with the inbox

Or the "in brief" at the top, which is spamming numbers as though they add dramatic tension. Or, just like, every. fucking. sentence. You know, years of reading this shit can't be distilled into a comment. Have you not been reading articles for the last three years? LLMs have very distinct voices.

user

2 hours ago

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ShadowOfThePit

2 hours ago

Additionally:

> The phone sent me to the address. The address sent me back to the phone. The loop closed in one day.

> This is not a mess. A mess looks different. This is a design (...)

> One account, four companies. Each does exactly what it was created to do, and each is fully within the law. (...) Nobody here breaks the law. And that is exactly why there is no one to go to. (Attempted conclusion)

> One empty chair remains in this puzzle. (???)

> The eloquent individual history comes from India. (eloquent???)

> What does this mean for the user? Simply that when the inbox was disabled on September 1 (...) (Talking in third person about himself?)

> Google can be sued in Poland. (No shit)

> Google itself publishes the rules for such an eventuality, which sounds almost like politeness. (WDYM it "sounds like politeness"??)

It's so bad how hard AIs try to sound smart.

WesolyKubeczek

2 hours ago

Jesus fuck, would you get off your high horse already? This is every investigative article heading since before Dario or Sam even finished high school.

Seeing LLMs everywhere is another kind of AI psychosis.

applfanboysbgon

2 hours ago

Can you show me one long-form investigative article from, let's say before 2020, that is nearly this dense with this BS? A single headline or a punchline here or there doesn't count; what makes it an LLM tell is that it's fucking constant, being abused and misused to add dramatic tension to things that aren't dramatic. The "humans do this too" defense is so tiring because you people never draw a distinction between a human doing something correctly as a rhetorical flourish and a bot spamming a learned trope over and over and over and over again in every single sentence without any regard for whether it makes sense to.

isaacfrond

2 hours ago

I'd say it's totally immaterial how it was written

yonaguska

3 hours ago

Probably not a native speaker.

cynicalsecurity

3 hours ago

It doesn't read as AI generated at all, it's got distinct Polish style. It could have been AI-reviewed, judging by the ugly Oxford commas.

Moral of the story is not simply "don't use free accounts". His account was not free, he had a paid Google Workspace. The moral of the story Google and other big American corporations are absolutely unaccountable in Europe. We should stop using their services and switch to our European sovereign service providers. Big American corporations can block even business accounts as they please and ignore European laws and courts.

egorfine

3 hours ago

> Under EU law, they might actually win.

So what? They will ignore the decision of the court, just like the author explains they did.

sajithdilshan

2 hours ago

So the author actually sent more than 100 automated emails about how Anthropic wronged him to some people and that’s actually spam. He already disputed the payments for Anthropic with his bank and got the money, so I have no idea why he spammed other people with his problems.

Also, he is adamant that re-instating his gmail account is like his birth right and at the same time has a lot of examples of how different countries fined Google/Alphabet and saying it’s evil, which is irrelevant to his spamming issue.

Toynbeeidea

3 hours ago

>That day I sent six complaints about Anthropic, the maker of Claude, to 107 recipients.

So a spammer spammed and got his just deserts. Good.

kotaKat

3 hours ago

> On September 1, 2026, between 15:49 and 15:53, I sent six messages from my private Gmail account to a total of 107 different addresses: 99 media addresses, four public authorities, two Anthropic addresses, and two private addresses. They were complaints about Anthropic, the maker of the Claude assistant and Claude Code tool, which had disabled services I paid for and answered my complaints with a bot.

... Eeeeeesh. 99 media addresses, and I guarantee at least several of them probably smacked the "report spam" button to the massive email they've been CC'd on.

avazhi

3 hours ago

Legit I laughed so hard when I got to that point and closed the tab.

100 emails to every 'media company' you can think of is textbook spam. No shit your account got banned, lol.

egorfine

2 hours ago

> 100 emails to every 'media company' you can think of is textbook spam

Really.

Pushing out tens of millions emails a day for years - no, that's creative.

Sending one email to a hundred media companies - a textbook spam.

avazhi

2 hours ago

Spamming is defined as sending a single message indiscriminately to a bunch of recipients. Old mate sent a single message indiscriminately to a bunch of media companies hoping to get publicity for his personal cause. Yeah, that's textbook spam.

> Pushing out tens of millions emails a day for years - no, that's creative.

No clue what kind of whataboutism you're trying to bring into the conversation here but it's irrelevant.

nickelpro

3 hours ago

This is a short thesis saying you shouldn't use a personal email account for marketing, ad, or press campaigns. Doing so places that personal email account at risk of closure.

nottorp

2 hours ago

As far as I remember Google will ban all accounts associated with the one their "AI" finds "reason" to ban. So if you make a business account besides your personal, both will be banned.

egorfine

2 hours ago

> The decision to close the account is made by the system, not the human

Someone from Apple here once told that they close millions of accounts daily. How many accounts does Google close? It's unfeasible to expect any company to do a human review at this scale.

Not that I like it, but that's the way it is.

chinathrow

2 hours ago

> It's unfeasible to expect any company to do a human review at this scale.

Oh it absolutely is. Yes it would cost money, as do other tasks a company has at hands.

applfanboysbgon

3 hours ago

I'm not saying Google doesn't have too much power, but I'm also not saying it isn't hilarious to see someone let an OpenClaw instance go wild on their main e-mail account and rightfully get banned for spam.