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qgin

15 minutes ago

Someone tell me if I'm overreacting, but does the ability to abliterate guardrails basically mean that alignment is basically a lost cause?

I do not like these "surgical removals" and would rather prefer a pass over from a tool like Heretic. These surgical removals often trigger and analyze the activated neurons and erase them. This worked fine on older models where a single refusal vector existed. Now these "abliterated" models all suffer from catastrophic breakage because they are not as simple anymore. HauhauCS (on HF) for example, makes great uncensored models although they often work on smaller models rather than large ones like this.

halJordan

an hour ago

And you think heretic is not abliteraterating models?

pullstart

2 hours ago

Most of what these models gate is stuff you can find with a library card. The safety filter is more about liability than actual prevention.

eddyg

2 hours ago

“Available knowledge” is not “usable capability”.

crooked-v

6 hours ago

I've seen some people complain about the work of dealign.ai and similar groups, but personally, I fully support it. If LLMs have a lasting effect on society, I'd prefer to see some options that don't have generic corpo-speak anti-liability status quo guards encoded into them by default.

esseph

5 hours ago

> If LLMs have a lasting effect on society, I'd prefer to see some options that don't have generic corpo-speak anti-liability status quo guards encoded into them by default.

Non-zero chance the lasting impact LLMs have are a bioweapon.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/10/us/politics/anthropic-ai-...

dd8601fn

3 hours ago

I wouldn’t read too far into that. Claude has busted me down to Haiku multiple times for asking middle school level genetics and biology questions. It’s silly fast about deciding you might be al qaeda.

I’m a thoroughly average guy. I’m not capable of asking competent supervillain questions.

And Anthropic said they couldn’t say if any of the “bioweapon” safeguards went off on nefarious efforts. I’m probably in those numbers.

So read it as marketing more than something to lose sleep over. They’re mostly gating stuff a sufficiently motivated person would find with a library card.

tacomagick

3 hours ago

Non-zero chance if LLMs have access to the data required to make a bioweapon a regular person can do so too. Non-zero chance every second a meteor could hit you.