In what way? Genuinely curious

Prey/predator analogies is what you'd find in der sturmer in the 30s.

> I have no idea what you're implying. How does the wolf comparison make this a racism thing?

I was trying to reinforce it by saying the wolf comparison is a current public safety concern and has nothing to do with comparing Romani to actual animals.

"When wolves get out of control, you shoot them. When gypsies take over public spaces, you deport them."

This is not "homeless pooping in the bushes," but just "gypsies". And the (very, very intentional) juxtaposition of killing wolves to deporting an entire ethnic group is revolting.

> How does the wolf comparison make this a racism thing?

Because wolves are being used as a dogwhistle/proxy for "migrants" by the far right.

Denmark has a problem with wolves crossing into Denmark. So the far right gives speeches about what a menace wolves are, they don't belong here, they don't deserve to be here, they're not FROM here" and so on - while doing a lot of theatrical smiling and winking, or just shifting right into talking about immigrants and migrants, "totally separately and unconnected, bro! I just wanted to talk about them both while i was here!"

You might want to not take anything David Hamburger Helper says at face value given he perpetuates far-right conspiracies / racist tropes like "Pakistani rape gangs."

By native Brits he means white people born in the UK [1]. People who are not white are not native Brits by his reckoning no matter how many generations their family has been there.

I think that is a lot more extreme than the average UK right-wing adult.

[1] Follow the link in his second paragraph and compare with the numbers he gives in that paragraph.

The prey/predator analogy is what you'd find the der Sturmer nazi paper in the 30s. They also just wanted to deport the Jews, even worked with Zionists to do so in the early years. He can say write that the park camping and bush pooping is bad and that the police/government should do something about it, but he's not just writing that.

Didn’t Obama and Biden both deport more people than Trump has? It didn’t require ICE to become some kind of militarized police force, and there was no question they got a day in court, and nobody was exiled to a different country that than they were from.

The deportations aren’t the fascistic part, all that other stuff is?

Generally championing the removal of rights IS seen as fascistic - so removing gay marriage in 2026 would be a good example. That differs from 2008, before the right was universally won, however.

In both cases it seems like you’re minimizing some serious differences, or either not arguing in good faith or extremely confused about why people are calling things fascist these days.

I have examples to help: Starting a war without Congress? That’s fascist. Ignoring the courts? Also fascist. Pardoning J6 traitors? Fascist. Using the presidency to enrich yourself? Threatening the news, comedians, and artists you don’t like? Threatening your allies (Canada)? Putting your name and image all over things? Taking large gifts to swing favors, even whole jets? Minimizing and interrupting science and the arts, especially any that goes against your investments? Interfering with the courts and trying to use right wing weirdos to claim that we have a “unitary executive”? Interfering with the post office, closing polling places, and partisan redistricting?

Those things, especially taken holistically, are very indicative of fascism. But I can’t see how they wouldn’t have been considered the same in 2010?

> It’d be so great if CEOs would keep their views to themselves.

Would it, really? I personally appreciate it when they're so open, it gives me absolute certainty about two things:

1. Whether I want to work for their company

2. Whether I want to buy what they're selling

This is extremely valuable information. If they were keeping that information hidden, it would be far more difficult to obtain answers to these questions. This way I don't even have to do any real work (job application, accepting an offer, moving, purchasing, etc) to find out.

Sadly only the odious behaviors convey such certainty, the sneaky nice ones are who you have to watch out for.

He's not "voicing being impacted by immigrants", he's advocated for removing anyone who isn't white from the UK.

That is called ethnic cleansing, and yeah, comparisons to Hitler's "policies", especially during the early stages of his rise to power, are quite fair.

Unless you get "grandfathered in"[1].

> Bernie Sanders: Open borders? No, that's a Koch brothers proposal.

> Ezra Klein: Really?

> Bernie Sanders:Of course. That's a right wing proposal which says essentially there is no United States.

> Ezra Klein: But it would make ...

> Bernie Sanders: Excuse me ...

> Ezra Klein: It would make a lot of global poor richer, wouldn't it?

> Bernie Sanders: It would make everybody in America poorer, you're doing away with the concept of a nation state and I don't think there's any country in the world which believes in that. If you believe in a nation state or in a country called the United States or UK or Denmark or any other country, you have an obligation in my view to do everything we can to help poor people. What right wing people in this country would love is an open border policy. Bring in all kinds of people, work for 2 or $3 an hour, that would be great for them. I don't believe in that.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf-k6qOfXz0

I heard a wonderful quote the other day:

> Politics is just another word for how we treat our neighbors.

So yes, as I accept this definition - I may choose a "less efficient" tool if it treated my neighbor better.

The linked article (not DHH's article) is the reason why Trump is in power and why right wing extremists are in the rise in Europe.

People are concerned about things that can't even be expressed without getting labeled as fascist or racist. While the concerns may be irrational and without merit, it should be talked and discussed with those people and trying to understand their concerns better. Instead the reaction is "no need to talk with them as they are racists".

And yes, there are many racists out there and they have gotten so much support lately because many people feel heard by them and only them.