A dark horse enters China's AI race: StartLux

48 pointsposted 5 hours ago
by try-working

16 Comments

FailMore

3 hours ago

I enjoyed this article... random cat pictures (esp. thumbs up cat picture) kept me going.

I do think on device AI will be a BIG thing... and basically change how we interact with our computers entirely - you will just ask to get things done. Low latency, free to use as much as you want. I think this future is hard to avoid/this will be a chunk of the future.

MisterTea

2 hours ago

Like Star Trek -- "tea. earl grey. hot.". Though there will still be tasks where you'd have to likely want or need to pick up a keyboard and mouse. But of course there will be plenty of casual users who dont want or need to do anything interesting and use it for simple tasks like ask for the weather, turn on lights, and brew their earl grey.

vkaku

2 hours ago

I don't think personal computers will be a BIG thing ....

- IDK, some random mainframe company exec in the 60s ;)

alansaber

2 hours ago

For sure, there is a big subset of tasks where ultra low latency >>> other concerns

ngl999

2 hours ago

Still censored, no thanks.

zabana

an hour ago

arent western models censored too ?

Karuma

5 hours ago

It's just another Qwen 3.6 27B finetune (not even 3.8...), claiming to beat TB-sized models. This is probably the 57th model like that, just this week, claiming the same thing... And they never deliver, to say the least.

BoredomIsFun

33 minutes ago

> (not even 3.8...)

3.6 is better for non-coding tasks, noticeably so.

dgellow

3 hours ago

Didn’t they deliver something here? Why does it matter what base model they used?

eightysixfour

3 hours ago

What they all deliver is benchmaxxed models that are awful in actual use.

xena

2 hours ago

But it gives the lab good publicity, as seen in the article.

vkaku

2 hours ago

I'm giving out more unpopular opinions today for entertainment and thought :)

Every model is benchmaxxing today. Many of them are awful until tuned for any particular task.

dgellow

2 hours ago

Qwen is a really awesome model to use!

alansaber

2 hours ago

The finetunes will continue until morale increases.

mmooss

an hour ago

> At the 18th anniversary reunion of Shanda Innovation Institute, he publicly declared "eight non-consensus views for the AI era," ...

The "eight non-consensus views" matches a pattern in public communication in China, and I wonder if it is a technique that's taught, a style, or something with a history? Is there a word for it? I'm hoping someone here might know.

For example, Xi Jinping's English Wikipedia page includes:

* Four Comprehensives, Four Confidences, Four Consciousnesses, Three red lines, Three Stricts and Three Honests, Two Centenaries, Two Establishments, Two Upholds, Eight Musts, Eight-point Regulation

Deng Xiaopeng:

* Four Modernizations, Six Conceptions, Four Cardinal Principles, Four Modernizations

Mao and the Cultural Revolution:

* Three-anti and Five-anti Campaigns, Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence, Four Olds, Five Black Categories, Five Red Categories, Four Greats, Three Loyalties and Four Limitlessnesses

debo_

2 hours ago

A dark horse named Lux.