amiga386
3 hours ago
This news is from May 2026.
https://www.europesays.com/dk/80254/
> Sweden has ordered the expansion of a key power interconnector to Denmark to be halted after failing to reach agreement with the European Commission over bottleneck fees.
The interconnect already exists as Konti-Scan 1 and 2. Konti-Scan Connect, when built, will replace them.
What are "bottleneck fees"?
https://swedenherald.com/article/surplus-from-electricity-cu...
> Bottleneck revenues, or capacity fees as they are also called, arise when there are large price differences between electricity areas, often between electricity area 2 (southern Norrland) and 3 (Svealand and northern Götaland). The price differences arise when the capacity in the network is not sufficient to transfer the electricity surplus in the north to the south where the supply is too small. When Svenska kraftnät handles this, revenues arise for the authority corresponding to the price differences.
In the UK, which has a single electricity market for the whole country, we have curtailment fees. There is insufficent grid capacity between Scotland and England. When lots of power in England is needed, Scottish wind farms could provide it, but the grid can't deliver it. So the grid operator pays twice -- a curtailment fee to the wind farms to ask them to dump their energy, and a fee to English power stations to switch on the gas turbines and provide the power England needs that it can't get from the bottlenecked grid connection to Scotland.
I have the suspicion that Sweden fears having to pay the equivalent of curtailment fees to Denmark. The EU agreed that wouldn't have to happen... but the EU still wants to constrain Sweden into using its collected bottleneck fees to upgrade its grid infrastructure, hastening their demise, rather than use it to subsidise power production.
> In March, the Commission agreed that Sweden would not have to share bottleneck fees paid to Svenska Kraftnät with other EU countries. But a new conflict has blown up over some of the Commission’s other proposals. According to TT, the Commission will not agree to let Sweden use the bottleneck fees to fund power production as well as grid expansion.
try-working
3 hours ago
Sweden will not pay curtailment fees, such a thing does not exist. The reason is exactly what you quote at the end.
To state it again:
1. The intranational powercables means that German demand raises electricity prices in southern Sweden, which means businesses and consumers pay a premium vs what they would have paid without the cable
2. The extra charge is captured by network operators as what is called bottleneck fees and it's billions of euros per year, very large sums
3. The EC first wanted to confiscate these funds, which come from Swedish consumers and businesses. Now they want to rule about their use. Obviously this is completely unacceptable and nothing more than a bureaucratic powergrab, and no country would accept it.
amiga386
an hour ago
So,
1. What does this have to do with Denmark? This is about upgrading an existing link from Sweden to Denmark (seems mainly for maintenance reasons, not capacity; it's only increasing from 715MW to 1000MW)
2. Why did the EU have to reassure Sweden wouldn't have to pay bottleneck fees to Denmark?
3. If you have such great power generation in the north of Sweden, why isn't it available to South Sweden where the demand is? (whether that's to Germany, Denmark or Sweden itself)
try-working
an hour ago
1. Geography.
2. Are you asking why they had to not confiscate Swedish funds?
3. I said nothing about Northern Sweden and you should Google this. Bozo.
amiga386
a minute ago
Rude.
1. Let's consult the map: https://www.entsoe.eu/data/map/
Also https://www.svk.se/services/imagehandler/v1/image/55796/1300
Germany is currently getting power from you directly, as well as via the existing Denmark connection (this project is merely upgrading it from 700MW to 1000MW), as well as via Lithuania if it wanted. Germany gets more of its energy from Norway and Denmark directly without involving you. Not to mention all the other countries that surround Germany.
So if your problem is Germany, why are you complaining about Denmark?
2. No, I see the issue now. It's not that Sweden objects paying money to Denmark, it's that Sweden objects paying for any other country's grid upgrade.
3. I ask about Northern Sweden because I heard it had lots of potential for electricity generation, but it can't even get it to Stockholm, never mind Malmö, due to north/south grid capacity issues purely inside Sweden. Your current curtailment is about 3.8TWh per year. I read that when you can't get power into the SE4 area, which can happen daily, the prices shoot up as it needs to import from Denmark, Germany, etc.
Wouldn't it be better for all concerned if this was addressed? You then wouldn't have such a price differential between areas of your own country.
m101
2 hours ago
Costs not born by those who made the decision is kind of a key property of the EU integration project in general.
try-working
2 hours ago
You must always remember that the European Commission is unelected and has the same level of democratic involvement as that of China's Standing Committee.
master-lincoln
an hour ago
The European council (which consists of elected country heads) nominates a Comission President and the members of the parliament (elected politicians) vote on the nominated president candidate and need absolute majority to confirm. That president then tries to form the commission with one representative from each member state. The parliament then has to vote again to confirm the commission.
Sure it's not ideal. But compared to China, the population of the EU has influence.
try-working
an hour ago
The European population had no say in VDLs appointment and she would not be there if we did.
surgical_fire
an hour ago
Following that logic, any minister appointed by a head of government is "unelected and has the same level of democratic involvement as that of China's Standing Committee".
But that statement would be bullshit.
lrasinen
an hour ago
Oh for Pete's sake, Sweden. Anything to avoid building more North-South connectivity.
Sweden is currently split into four pricing areas due to lack of grid capacity. All the cheap electricity is typically in the north (hydro) and then the price creeps up when you head south.
It's too bad the live electricity flow data is offline today, but there's a common pattern where SE1 pricing area in the north sends little under 2 GW to Finland (single zone) and most of it gets exported to SE3 around Stockholm.
contravariant
3 hours ago
Hmm, so basically Sweden has a surplus of goods (electricity), but the EU commissions is trying to pay for it with coupons that look like money but can't be used to buy everything, and now Sweden is saying "no, tak".
try-working
2 hours ago
Sweden does not have surplus electricity. We have production of electricity that is better matched to demand than other nations, most notably the disaster that is Germany. German demand is causing Swedish industrial production to shut down due to increased energy prices, which makes production unprofitable.
user
an hour ago