piltdownman
4 hours ago
Due to hitting 45 million average monthly users in the EU, ChatGPT is now subject to the same classification as Reddit or Roblox - and thus held accountable for mitigating risks related to ChatGPT’s impact on minors, user mental health, and the spread of illegal content in the European Union.
Who is against this exactly?
danielfoster
4 hours ago
The EU doesn’t have clear requirements or guidelines about what these things mean, especially in the context of a new technology like ChatGPT.
My guess is that ChatGPT will do their best to comply but whatever they do, the EU will find that they did not do a perfect job and issue a €x billion fine.
piltdownman
3 hours ago
Not only do they have clear requirements and guidelines, they're codified into law.
The core aims of the law are unambiguous in both aim and implementation, and serve to enforce existing consumer rights. Please feel free to highlight which of these you feel represents an onerous or undue burden on the corporations in the name of enforcing some very basic ethical guardrails for the vulnerable in society.
- Swift removal of illegal content online, including products, services: a clearer “notice and action” procedure where users will be empowered to report illegal content online and online platforms will have to act quickly.
- Victims of cyber violence will be better protected especially against non-consensual sharing of illegal content (revenge porn) with immediate takedowns.
- Transparency obligations for platforms allow users to be better informed about how content is recommended to them (recommender systems) and to choose at least one option not based on profiling.
- Online advertising: users will have better control over how their personal data are used. Targeted advertising is banned when it comes to sensitive data (e.g. based on sexual orientation, religion, ethnicity).
- Protection of minors: platforms accessible to minors will have to take specific measures to protect them, including by fully banning targeted advertising.
- Manipulating users’ choices through ‘dark patterns’ will be prohibited. Moreover, cancelling a subscription for a service should become as easy as subscribing to it.
- Compensation: recipients of digital services will have a right to seek redress for any damages or loss suffered due to infringements by platforms.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220412IP...
ezst
31 minutes ago
Thanks for taking the time to write this down and cite sources. I'm baffled by the recent-ish increase of such dismissive and lazy comments as the one you responded to.
tonyedgecombe
3 hours ago
My guess is they will do their best to maliciously comply. This is why the legislation is fairly open ended.
Laurel1234
3 hours ago
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Pragmata
4 hours ago
Every reasonable person.
oceanplexian
4 hours ago
Literally the highest tier ChatGPT that was available in 2025 can be run on a consumer laptop with Chinese AI now. Their regulations were obsolete before they put any words on paper.
I’m against it because the EU should be at the forefront of science and technology.
tacet
3 hours ago
Lot of the stuff regulated don't arise on locally run llm's. No ads targeting minors, no real dark patterns, no bans without reason, no personalized feed without possibility to opt out. maybe i forgot something.
bulder
3 hours ago
The regulations are for OpenAI the corporate entity, not the technology. Doesn't matter how cutting edge you are if you don't behave responsibly.
1718627440
4 hours ago
I fail to see what this has to do with anything.
applicative
4 hours ago
With characteristic tunnel vision it is applying rules to ChatGPT it will never apply to Kimi K3
piltdownman
3 hours ago
Kimi K3 is an LLM so completely separate to the conversation at hand.
The DSA doesn't apply to models, it applies to businesses operating as Platforms with more than 45 million monthly users in the EU.
If you were to use Kimi K3 via kimi.com or the Moonshot API, your data is processed in China, a country without an EU adequacy decision, nevermind an obligation to operate as a business/platform in the EU.
Host Kimi K3 in the EU as a commercial offering, hit 45 million average monthly users in the EU, and now Kimi K3's Host is considered a Very Large Online Search Engine under the EU’s Digital Services Act.