3 minutes ago
For now you can choose whether to share the sessions, but we all know that from now on the session transcript must be kept clean and presentable in case at some later time it is made public.
The session is from now on a stage on which to display virtues and send approved signals.
All that rambling and ranting, those explorative impulses, they will soon have to be explained and defended.
7 hours ago
I may be missing something, but this is exactly what I want as a default. I want the session links there. I see PRs from my coworkers with session links.
I still get to control whether other people can see the session, but I don’t lose it.
I don’t get the “unprofessional” argument. This is attribution. Attribution is professional. If you don’t want it, you turn it off or rewrite the commit messages. If you are having Claude write the commit messages FOR YOU and you are NOT READING THEM then that’s what’s unprofessional. I am honestly kind of shocked and disappointed by how upset people are by this.
6 hours ago
From my point of view; I share Debian's perspective:
https://lwn.net/Articles/1091231/
Which is actually why I DON'T like the session amended. Ultimately it is an ad placed into the Git log, and noise at that. Regardless of if it exists or not, the professional responsibility for what is contained in that PR/commit falls to the feet of the developer contributing it.
Microsoft previously did this with Copilot, which was correctly met with a very negative response. I don't see why an ad by Anthropic is better than an ad from Microsoft.
4 hours ago
Agree, that it is an ad. Also, unless the full session (in a resume-able format, along all session artifact such as intermediate research/docs used to produce the final output) is also included in the commit, the session id is useless.
I presume this is Anthropic trying to their "usage" stats before their IPO.
3 hours ago
Funny to compare it to “Sent from iPhone” that Apple appended to emails by default way back when.
It was an ad, but nobody cared because using iPhone was a point of pride.
2 hours ago
People cared. Anyone who did and could do so turned it off immediately as with every service that appends any of that nonsense.
10 minutes ago
> Anyone who did and could do so turned it off immediately
I know I’m not alone as someone who’s bothered by the postscript, but too lazy to do anything but delete it every time. There’s even an entire (well part of) song about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbdeVhPAbms
8 minutes ago
Out of curiosity, do these Claude commit messages fall into the same category of "it's annoying but not worth the effort to turn it off"? If yes/no, why?
2 hours ago
I cared. Deleting that constantly was pretty annoying. And why would I have pride in whatever device I’m using?
44 minutes ago
Most people's identities and self worth are tied up in the material things they buy rather than actual self actualization and personal axxomplishments.
3 hours ago
So many people cared enough to complain, even in the comments here!
2 hours ago
I'm sorry if this is a naive question, but why can't you just edit the commit message however you like?
Or, for preference, write the whole commit message yourself? It confuses me a great deal to see projects where someone put in a lot of effort to write a useful and detailed prompt but absolutely couldn't be bothered to write a few sentences for the commit.
an hour ago
You can also just turn off attribution in Claude Code settings if it bothers you: https://code.claude.com/docs/en/settings-reference#attributi...
"To hide all attribution, set commit and pr to empty strings and sessionUrl to false."
6 hours ago
I'm not sure i see it as an ad. "Sent from my iPhone" is an ad because the iPhone is not a meaningful part of sending the email. Claude is a meaningful part of the commit though if you're using it, so to me it's more like clarity or transparency than an advertisement.
6 hours ago
You don't see how a link to "https://claude.ai/.." in the Git log is an ad for Cluade/Anthropic? It feels exactly like "Sent from an iPhone" to me, and has exactly the same value to people reviewing the Git log later (i.e. none).
Keep in mind that if you run across someone else's spam in the Git logs:
- You need a Claude account.
- You need permission to view the session.
The only people who can just follow that link and look at how Claude was used, is Anthropic themselves. Therefore, they can also use it as an additional mechanism to tie sessions back to other IDs/identities. For everyone else this is "Sent from an iPhone" but longer.
5 hours ago
If I put a link to the Jira ticket the commit fixes, is that an ad for Atlassian?
3 hours ago
But presumably everyone in your company/team is using Jira, so it's not an "ad" because it's a product already used internally. Claude is appending these links to all commits by default, whether or not others on the team use Claude. Those are very different things.
4 hours ago
Good counterpoint. We link to GitHub from JIRA, and the reverse. Linking to the Claude session that generated the code seems reasonable...it's a related artifact.
One thing I'm not sure about: what is the utility of linking to the session? What are folks expected to do with that data?
3 hours ago
for one thing, understanding how the final code ended up that way. it's hard to tell with code alone wherever something is designed or cargo culted.
3 hours ago
If _you_ choose to do it, no.
If the tool auto-does it, yes.
5 hours ago
For me, no. I’ve started tracking session ID on every ticket I work on in order to be able to find them again.
Having it in the commit message is handy (not to mentioned I already have it I. The commit message).
6 hours ago
The way I see it, the conversation transcript is the important part. The specific link to claude.ai nor the model itself is important to me. Otherwise we'll all just be linking out to 10 different AI model providers websites to see history. I'd rather it be some open solution.
Models change so much that I don't really see why anybody cares what model was used to generate the code after the fact. It changes every few months and they're non-deterministic so its not like you'll ever "recreate" the same conversation yourself anyways.
6 hours ago
My spade is a meaningful part of digging a hole when I plant a tree, but I still don't want a "Spear and Jackson" sign on my tree when I'm done.
5 hours ago
There has been more than I project where I literally didn’t even look at the code.
I prompted what amounts to verbose “I want X” and then did QA. I’m perfectly happy with an LLM being credited with that code and there being no copyright existing for that code.
For some people that is their life’s work and they want to clutch pearls. Their sole contribution was a half baked idea and they shipped QA out to their “users” but they want to be credited with any rights.
There is definitely a continuum in LLM usage for code, do I agree with an AI blindly stamping every commit, not really.
Do I see LLM generated code as equivalent to me digging a hole with a shovel, it depends. Sometimes there was very little shovelling, other times there was no me involved and you may as well credit the entire hole to the shovel.
Where this will come in is when it comes to copyright and licensing.
If your entire product is LLM generated you sure as hell have no right to place any license on there other than potentially a MIT equivalent license, even that is dubious though but from an organisational standpoint MIT probably will be more widely accepted than saying it is uncopyrightable.
My argument being I would rather know that you didn’t even look at the code, which is what this will achieve, whether I agree with it or not at the very least it will make it easier to sift through the garbage.
an hour ago
This is a problem with copyright in general. There's no longer any requirement to provide information about copyright status, so there's no way for the public to know whether something is copyrighted (no doubt the uncertainty is intentional as an additional way to undermine the public domain). This is just as true for expired copyrights, or material placed in the public domain intentionally.
The solution isn't to add notices to non-copyrighted things; it's to require notice for copyrighted things, including date.
Individually, of course, one should simply assume things are not copyrighted if you have no way to know, and do whatever you want. If the author can't be bothered to tell you, you have no moral responsibility to care.
6 hours ago
I agree. But I think I would also like the OS to put a fingerprint (I.e committed on macOSX in /usr/marc/… while he was watching porn on xxx). This way we can get the full context by default and better understand the PRs.
3 hours ago
> "Sent from my iPhone" is an ad because the iPhone is not a meaningful part of sending the email.
It explains the brevity and any typos. That's how I see it used.
6 hours ago
Realistically, what do you actually get from viewing people's sessions? I honestly don't really understand why people care.
The specific model used can't be important because theres a new trending one every couple weeks nowadays. The conversation could be wildly out there and have 10+ different iterations of the same thing in it that led to the final product, etc.
It's not like before AI we were asking people to explain every single iteration they went through in their commit body, or to see their entire internal dialogue.
I don't really understand people's hype around needing to see the conversation they had with their AI. As long as the code itself is self-documented and final decisions are relatively well-documented future agents and humans will pick up on it much faster than reading the entire transcripts anyways.
That's not even bringing into the fact that there are people who use multiple models, multiple sessions, multiple harnesses across the same commits/changesets. How do you reconcile those alongside people who could have made human changes in the end?
3 hours ago
There’s always been a school of thought that is in this direction. In the pre AI world people discussed whether to squash commits or to not and I was on the squash side because I think that the development artifact should be optimized for reading and just as one does not read a novel in all of its pre-edited forms to read it, one should not do so for code. The cost to grok using that method is too high.
However with LLMs you can have them analyze prior transcripts to identify bug sources and so on. I could see it being used. But all theorycrafting. And perhaps motivated reasoning. I’ve always committed early and often and used bisect to find bugs. That places me right away in the squash commits camp because of the method I use to write code.
6 hours ago
People don’t want their incompetence displayed. The session is probably a series of “continue” prompts with basic understanding demonstrated in the initial ask.
5 hours ago
I also wouldn't want people to have viewed my browser history on every commit pre-AI era.
6 hours ago
Do you also add all of your notes ever recorded to your PRs?
7 hours ago
It’s a default that changed silently during an automatic update.
Also I frequently use an LLM to commit work that I have written. It is just misleading in that case.
5 hours ago
I think it’s foreseeable that if you use the LLM to commit work you’ve written, it might cause problems with attribution.
In general I assume that attribution to AI is approximate. People copy-paste things out of chats and those don’t get attributed to the AI. And on the flip side, I’ve had AI write a commit, and then I’ve reverted it and written something different by hand (and it got tagged with an LLM session).
The AI attribution is approximate and informative. The commit message and authorship are the more important parts.
You may be concerned that people will think your commits are LLM-generated. I’m sorry that you have to work in that environment, but I don’t work in an environment like that and I don’t share your concerns.
6 hours ago
What's misleading? Wouldn't the session corroborate that it was only used for the commit?
6 hours ago
Only to me, the person with access to the session. It implies LLM generated to anyone looking at the commit.
6 hours ago
How would it know for certain it was used for a given commit? What if there was no code? What if the approach was different, but some lines were the same?
I think some folks think that using an LLM is a shameful act and this is somehow shaming it and others believe that it ties back to the conversation. These conversations don't have any guarantee of being accessible over the long haul. If there was value in the conversation, the conversation should be somehow captured as well, not just some URLs.
6 hours ago
Only if you deliberately made the session available for others to view. And they view it before jumping to conclusions.
18 minutes ago
hard disagree. I'm not gonna read the session log, and I don't care for it at all.
as for the commit message: if it's the usual verbose Claude style, I'm also not going to read it. to be honest, probably if it's not verbose, I'm still not reading it.
I'll ask my review agent anyway to summarize your code. My review agent will read your commit message.
3 hours ago
>This is attribution.
I think a lot of people interpret it as trying to foist additional burden on reviewers. As in "here's my PR, I would like to take credit for this idea, it's now on you to review. If you find a problem with it, I expect you to call out exactly what my incorrect assumptions were, which you are able to do because they're all buried somewhere in this Claude session. Let me know what they are and I'll paste them into a new session and submit again."
3 hours ago
Seems like an excellent way to optimize yourself out of a job, both figuratively and literally.
So no, I'm not going to assume that's what someone meant. I can at least pretend I consider people to be competent.
6 hours ago
I'm OK with the attribution, but I just didn't like a session URL appearing on a public repo all of a sudden. I was left wondering "did I just leak my private session?"
I don't understand why it isn't opt-in. Or at least a heads-up somewhere.
6 hours ago
At this point it's believable to me that Anthropic might not even be aware of what features get added in a given release. It's hard to tell the difference between "they actively are against documenting all of the defaults they keep changing" and "they genuinely don't even pay enough attention to notice when their vibe-coded changes have changed a default". Functionally they're the same, and both would stem from similar (lack of) values, but I think it does kind of matter because it's essentially the difference between explicitly crafting an experience for users versus defining same things they want and letting the vibes end up driving it towards a bunch of user-facing emergent properties that no one has considered.
"Of course they were intentional in adding in an ad to everyone's git log" honestly night be the less cynical take, because the alternative is assuming that they actually look at git logs ever rather than only having Claude deal with it.
6 hours ago
> Attribution is professional.
It's also, like, kind of the point of using git, isn't it? So putting this in the commit message feels very appropriate to me.
6 hours ago
I agree that attribution is professional. What I would worry about is people using the link to supply the reasoning behind the change without putting it into the commit message. Then you have the problem of needing to load the session to understand the change, when one would ideally be able to get that context from source control alone.
5 hours ago
I talk to Claude like no one is going to read it. full of typos, often via voice where I am literally just thinking out loud.
I don’t think anyone will find it valuable and I don’t want anyone to read it
7 hours ago
People are sick of Anthropic, and everyone, turning every little thing into a chance to manipulate reality in their favour.
4 hours ago
I don’t attach a raw dump of all the conversations I have with colleagues to my commit messages, and wouldn’t want to work in a place where I did.
Sometimes I tell Claude ‘don’t trust file X, it was written by a colleague who writes awful tests’. I don’t want that in my commit messages.
4 hours ago
One thing I’ve done is a few books and check what branch / work tree user is on. Allows for more fidelity than even this. Works quite well.
I just wish they allow for getting inside subscription pricing vs outside subscription pricing easier
7 hours ago
Provenance, provenance, provenance
6 hours ago
One of those words that Claude taught me
6 hours ago
Same. Over relied on and far less clear than alternatives 99% of the time. Claude is a shitty English writer that is only tolerated for it’s coding ability.
6 hours ago
Nah, "provenance" is a good word to know. Plain English version would be, "what colour are your bits?".
5 hours ago
Good word to know, yes. Best word to use, no.
If you know “origin” or “source” and those words suffice, using a word that means the same thing but you don’t know is strictly worse for communication.
So if Claude is writing a novel, maybe provenance is the best word to use at times. If its a codebase README or variable name, its usually not.
4 hours ago
Same here, cool, now Claude can grab the context from the session to reason better about why things are the way they are.
Maybe an ID alone would have been better, not a whole http url.
2 hours ago
It feels like an absolute failure of project management if your tooling needs to attach a session identifier in a git commit message for it to understand what’s going on.
Wikis, changelogs, decision records, issue trackers and more are available to provide greater context for you, your team and the agents you deploy.
an hour ago
One of many signals. Using AI efficiently is all about leaving breadcrumbs everywhere.
6 hours ago
Why not use something like openspec? You get the benefits of context without a whole conversation to read.
5 hours ago
I use and love openspec and I'm against this session attribution by default setting.
But I do see the value in seeing the conversation that lead to the spec. I make sure that all product decisions go through me prior to the agent writing the spec and the questions I ask and decisions I make could definitely help understand retroactively why something is the way it is.
I guess with the default openspec schema you wouldn't have that but you could customize it or create your own in which the reasoning is encoded fully.
6 hours ago
Most comments I read were positive, what kind of negative sentiment were you picking up in these comments?
7 hours ago
It is because many "developers" want to pretend that they have read the code and have understood it so they can claim it as their own.
Attribution is indeed professional. If you use an AI to write the code for you and have no idea why you accepted the decisions it made nor can you explain them to another human, that would be clear evidence of acute skill atrophy.
6 hours ago
Do you add your IDE version to your commits, everytime you use autocomplete, or when you refactor the code and ask ide to replace all function names?
6 hours ago
Sure, but it does spook some people like me where I frequently mention context in session like: "it would be better to fix this on the backend, but that is a separate team that moves VERY slowly", etc. And I don't want that accidentally getting broadcast.
6 hours ago
Am I misunderstanding this change? This makes it sound like Claude is attaching the entire session content when I thought it was only a link that is exclusively readable by the author, unless deliberately shared?
5 hours ago
I can't believe how many people are in favor of it. Like it's so positive in the comments I'd think it's astroturfing. The code is the result of my work however it got done, and if I don't document or explain it well enough then that's a separate issue. Did you want to see my slack messages to my mentor too? Or how about all the stack overflows I read? Maybe I should voice record all the times I swore about Gary the junior dev not documenting something? It's plenty obvious when the code is AI written it's probably just safe to assume 95% of things have been at least AI assisted. Just look at the drop in SO volume, we're not writing less code we're writing more (rip GitHub uptime).
4 hours ago
100% agree with this. Want my browser search history too so you can see my thought process?
This is terrible. I have no desire to read your Claude conversation. I don’t even want to read mine if I do use Claude.
The code is the artifact. There’s no value in trying to make the noisy, verbose conversation one. It’ll likely be dead in future years anyway.
an hour ago
I agree and disagree. It all comes down to how much a human was involved with the code.
If the code is artisan to any degree (authored, edited, reviewed, etc.), it's a bit ridiculous.
It does makes sense to me if the human driver was hands-off the code because the conversation becomes the artifact.
I'm older, and have very mixed feelings about the latter case but it seems inevitable that engineers will be working at a higher level where conversational governance becomes important. We'll stop this charade of hiding AI contributions behind human identities. (Note: I don't think conversation IDs are what we need but it's a step down this path.)
3 hours ago
I disagree with this. The code alone is not the artifact. How you came to the decision to write the code in a certain way is certainly an important artifact of the development process. Otherwise how would your coworkers know whether or not a particular piece of logic is still relevant?
3 hours ago
By commenting your code?
2 hours ago
Ok, but folks aren't even writing their own code, you think they'll go back and comment generated code? They often don't even look at the implementation that closely.
Also, while commenting is good, commit messages can stick around longer.
2 hours ago
> How you came to the decision to write the code in a certain way is certainly an important artifact of the development process. Otherwise how would your coworkers know whether or not a particular piece of logic is still relevant
Not really. Why is always more important than how. Even what is more important. Relevancy of a particular block of code is in the specs and some technical aspecs of computing/library/platform, not in the thought process of the developer.
22 minutes ago
On the potential astroturfing, check the account age. I double-check in forums with decade-old accounts before buying stuff right now. Workable line of defense against pollution.
5 hours ago
The major problem I see with these are linkrot. Do any of us truly believe these links will work 30 years from now?
Post IPO, many years down the line, a leadership that is eager to cut costs will look at their storage usage and expire 7 year old non-training sessions. Quickest thing to go. I have zero faith in any successful provider getting this right.
Git is supposed to be the durable storage medium, self containing and weathering the passage of time. Now we're littering the repos with a bunch of URLs that are only helpful in the short term.
an hour ago
I can't imagine a project so wildly successful and stable that the session URL in a commit history is relevant after 5 years, let alone 30. Git is only 21 years old. I'm not deciding team policies with a multi-decade view.
That said, I wouldn't agree with using the session URL as the entire commit message, or even with letting the session URL make up for other missing details. But to me it's an at-worst neutral change to add it to an otherwise acceptable commit message.
an hour ago
This is a good default for new users, but shouldn't have been turned on for existing users without prompting them first.
I don't use Claude so no dog in the fight.
7 hours ago
I don't see any issue with this at all. I noticed it the other day and thought it was convenient. The same way I let the agent tag the PRs/commits with its name. I want to know what was used, in fact I wish it would identify the model used.
I'm not embarrassed by my LLM usage and I want to provide a full audit trail whenever possible to aid myself in the future.
PS: Claude archives old conversations on your computer after 30days. I've started archiving mine to the side as well for potential future use.
7 hours ago
It has strong "Sent from my iPhone" vibes.
I use many tools to develop software and if my IDE would silently start adding "This commit was created with IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate" I'd find it intrusive and obnoxious, too.
6 hours ago
If IDEA recorded my manual edits as events and attached a transcript to my commits I don't think I'd mind. If they just tagged it to put their name in that's different.
Knowing which model created the code has more "weight" to it than the editor IMHO which is why I think this is different. Adding the session link is a nice touch.
6 hours ago
In my last project I wrote most stuff by hand but also used various Anthropic models, Gemini something and GLM 5.2. By line count the #1 was probably the IDE autocomplete though mostly for boring field initializations and the likes. The "hardest" part was some reverse engineering by GLM that Claude refused but that resultend in zero lines directly. So, how to attribute this?
Allowing tools to insert themselves into the git history only makes sense if you are purely vibecoding with a single model and don't even bother to check and clean it up anymore. Is this truly the default state of software development already? How the times have changed.
6 hours ago
I suspect that in the future, lawyers are going to start counseling businesses to implement line-by-line provenance of their source code so they’re prepared for future copyright infringement disputes. Business leaders may also start wanting metrics to understand the impact of AI on development in a more detailed way.
6 hours ago
A traditional IDE isn’t writing code for you.
6 hours ago
code generator ide plugins have been around for a long long time
6 hours ago
Which ones are you thinking of? Were they actually generating code, or were they loading in templates or mechanically building interface stubs?
6 hours ago
Like "code generator IDE plugins".
There are hundreds of them for just about every IDE you can think of.
I can't tell if this is a serious question or not, but metaprogramming/generators are decades old concepts that have been common features of basically every IDE since the 90s.
5 hours ago
That’s not what we’re talking about, though. That’s mechanical transformation, and isn’t the same thing as code that’s generated on demand from scratch, based on plain-language intent.
Surely you know the difference, right? I assume you’ve used LLMs to generate code by now?
5 hours ago
And what is the good old autocomplete feature? Do you attribute it authorship, too?
Is a series of matrix multiplications on a token vector not a mechanical transformation?
Where is the point where you start to anthropomorphize it?
5 hours ago
That’s a great question, and is why we have these debates, and have courts to adjudicate disputes. I don’t have all the answers, but the gap between these different behaviors seems pretty wide to me.
Autocomplete doesn’t really work until you start typing. The fact that my phone recognizes that I’m starting to type a word and the IDE offers the most statistically likely choice for me to accept doesn’t make those words its own. Same with autocomplete on a phone or in a word processor when entering sentences.
FWIW the Copyright Office, for its part, recognizes that AI generated code is mechanically generated and its opinion is that it’s not copyrightable.
But that’s not really what we’re talking about here. We’re talking about attribution and when it becomes important. To me the metaprogramming/codegen case is different because of the nature of the mechanism, particularly if you wrote the inputs that the IDE transformed on your behalf.
an hour ago
It's still code generation, a compiler also generates code, why do you sound like you are arguing LLMs are the only path to generating code now?
5 hours ago
So “create an express app boilerplate, make no mistakes” requires attribution but “npx express-generator myapp” does not?
The bar for “writes code for you” is very low.
5 hours ago
That’s my opinion, yes.
What, specifically, do you have against it?
5 hours ago
Nothing at all, I just think its a rather arbitrary distinction, especially when you consider heuristic methods like autocomplete that have been around for ages.
4 hours ago
Line-drawing exercises are frequently difficult. :-)
an hour ago
> PS: Claude archives old conversations on your computer after 30days
Does adding this to your Claude settings.json not work anymore?
{ "cleanupPeriodDays": 99999 }
5 hours ago
I'd like to know what was used but "Co-authored by Claude Code" doesn't do anything except marketing for Anthropic.
The sessions are definitely more useful but only if I'm using a single agent from a single provider.
2 hours ago
Sure it does. It shapes your impression based on your perception of Anthropic.
"Made in China" on items for sale in China is a positive indicator. "Made in China" on items for sale in the U.S. is a negative one.
The line between "attribution" and "marketing" seems to depend on your impression of the entity involved.
I would very deliberately avoid a mystery novel or a prayer book if it said "Co-authored by Claude" because I don't want to see a world in which those things are generated by entities other than humans.
I don't have that same objection when it comes to computer code.
But the important point is that your impression of either one depends on your prior position on Claude. What do you assume when you see that attribution?
6 hours ago
> Claude archives old conversations
Archives? Or deletes?
6 hours ago
Deletes off your computer. I'm don't know what else they might be doing with it. They keep slimmed down summaries (on your comptuer) I believe but not the full context.
7 hours ago
Just because it's not in the title and most people won't be scrolling all the way down: its only enabled for web and Remote Control sessions, per a maintainer.
6 hours ago
Thing is, if you enable remote control for one session, it becomes globally enabled for all (which I personally prefer as I want to access all my sessions from my phone).
6 hours ago
This isn’t quite true. There’s a daemon you can launch with `claude rc` that will let you get at all sessions, but if you just `/rc` in one session only that session becomes available.
6 hours ago
Just in case, you can check your config. https://code.claude.com/docs/en/settings-reference#remotecon...
6 hours ago
I have never (manually) launched a daemon, but all my sessions are automatically available.
7 hours ago
This is probably a controversial take, but I love this. Back in the early days of claude code I had to write a script (well, claude wrote it) to pull out the session id and append it to every commit. It's a lifesaver when you are trying to debug an old commit to pull up the chat session that actually wrote it.
6 hours ago
It’s reasonable.
I think its the beginning of a larger trend where Anthropic makes its infeasible to use Claude without Claude getting credit. Not for ethical reasons, but business reasons. Fingerprinting supports this as well.
Im speculating. And these are little things that are reasonable by itself. They are ethical. But I dont think Anthropic wants Claude to ultimately be a tool that produces some output that just gets integrated into some human’s work product. IE they dont care much about authors utilizing Claude for writing their papers or books. They do care about Claude becoming the most prolific published author by orders of magnitude. And not being “plagiarized.”
6 hours ago
It's like they're working overtime to increase churn
6 hours ago
We dont know what the end game will be. They might sell products and services produced by claude, not sell claude.
5 hours ago
This annoyed me to the point that I created a python script that could search opencode's database and then a skill that uses the script to find the session I was thinking of. It's nice to be able to say "I think 4 days ago I had an issue with a dropdown in Qt6, find that session." Saves a lot of time and tokens.
2 hours ago
I've been using the "experimental teams" in claude code forever and its great for this. I never start a claude code session manually, I just ask the main agent to open a new tmux window for me. The lead agent knows all the agents I've ever interacted with and built its own system to keep track of things between compactions.
7 hours ago
I really like working using Claude Code, but Anthropic has a really bad tendency to push out new "features" like this as default-on, through auto-update. That, and their models trying to do everything through bash (including editing files) is enough that I'm seriously looking in to switching harness to pi.
6 hours ago
After I moved to Pi I really started to hate Claude Code.
I still have to use Claude Code at work and after getting used to Pi I feel I'm always fighting against it.
Maybe the way I enjoy working with LLMs just works better with Pi.
7 hours ago
Presumably quietly added default-on because everyone had turned attribution off.
Again, if you challenge it “It came from my harness instructions” and obviously telling it not to in memory is about as successful as… any other instruction in memory, about 60% of the time.
5 hours ago
The open models I use everyday also occasionally put the co-signed by claude notices in their commits, because they have been trained on commit logs with these notices present.
We shouldn't polute commit messages with these kind of extra's, they will only lead to more noise. Once all the models append random urls to commit messages, who's to trust these?
If you need attribution I bet that you can find a neater way to tie commit shas to claude uuids.
7 hours ago
Instead of accepting the default “commit then push,” try “draft a commit message and let me review and revise it first.”
an hour ago
one can go as far as preventing pushes altogether, or don't give them write permissions to your repos
2 hours ago
I consider my prompts and prompting style to be trade secrets. I've developed a very efficient and productive workflow for myself over the years without tutorials, without books, etc.
Anthropic is making very strange and very opinionated decisions far too often for my liking. It's really making me second guess my continued use of Claude Code.
an hour ago
There are many options, big fan of open weight models, I only use them now, they have gotten very good
Fireworks, OpenCode Go, local hardware are my avenues
2 hours ago
> I consider my prompts and prompting style to be trade secrets.
No one wrote this with a straight face did they?
an hour ago
Yes? If I've developed a prompting style over the past four years that produces efficient and secure code bases with novel features, I consistently out-perform my colleagues using the same tools, and it is how I make money, then I don't see how it is not a trade secret.
2 hours ago
I don't really understand what makes this different from companies stamping "Made in China" on products that were made in China.
The line between "advertisement" and "attribution" seems to depend upon your impression of the entity taking the attribution.
2 hours ago
Do you imagine China may one day claim they own all the rights to all the objects labeled with “Made in China” on them? Could Anthropic possibly do this?
2 hours ago
I would say the answer is "obviously not," to the degree that it's hard totake your question in good faith.
The China-made goods have been sold. Ownership transfers at sale. It would be ludicrous for some Chinese agency to say, "Well, we made it, so even though you bought it from us, it's actually still ours. Surprise!"
an hour ago
The difference is that US SaaS has the pattern of not seeing sales as ownership transfer, they are in the rental model and cut off access if you stop paying
6 hours ago
I like attribution in principle, but I'd rather it linked to an open format stored in/with the repository rather than their website.
6 hours ago
Simple enough to script someth to do just that.
6 hours ago
could ask claude to do that ;P
2 hours ago
This isn’t the only ridiculous thing Anthropic does to promote Claude. They still don’t support AGENTS.md
7 hours ago
I like claude code, I use it quite a bit for things, and I don't mind the attribution (I do not plan to deceive people of me using AI or not for a change) and I think a link back to the session is valueable after the fact. At least for me, the session contains a lot of discussion, back and forth, changes from me and more. (Also, if the feature is not on by default, it probably might not exist.)
However, I think claude code needs better change management. It changes quite frequent and I think changes like these should be communicated better in software. (Like a card game may show card changes in game when a patch happened.) It may impact how I do things when creating the commit messages or PRs.
> That is a stupid and evil feature.
I can see arguments for "stupid", but "evil"?
6 hours ago
Seems plausible that the feature was only added (quietly and by default) for marketing reasons
6 hours ago
It’s really useful for helping agents navigate history and maintain continuity between sessions. So wouldn’t assume it’s for marketing, it has a lot of utility.
an hour ago
> However, I think claude code needs better change management.
Ant is a slop factory and proud about it, you only have to listen to their people talk. Their products are buggy and inconsistent in features, so I don't use them.
5 hours ago
Eh, I don't want the tools I use to stamp their names on everything. It's also not uncommon for me to switch between GPT and Claude or different models in the harness if one of them isn't doing well. GPT-5.6 Terra has been doing a significantly better job at writing concise PR bodies and commit messages than Claude's usual multi paragraph word soup.
I don't need "Created by Claude Code 1.2.3, Opus 4.8 inside tmux inside ghostty on macOS ## on Mac Book Pro 2019 by git 123 in /Users/nijave/repo"
If you want session context, commit the session or prompt or add a git note. I think opaque URIs are the wrong approach unless they're to an issue tracker with more details. Proprietary URIs are not easily usable and interoperable with other tools. Commited information should still be valid and useful in 10 years.
I'm also not sure session is the right level of abstraction. I recently setup Claude Code with subscription delegation to opencode harness with z.ai coding plans and opencode go coding plan and it's been working fairly but there is no singular "session"
6 hours ago
Kind of crazy how a simple QOL lift (stamping a commit to an agent session, or persisting a session logs on cloud) is considered either innovation or controvertial
5 hours ago
we've started using parallel repos in diff ways for this reason depending on repo purpose, scope etc.
full private repo including session transcripts, etc. agent attribution etc, with public repo that only shows selected subset without sessions ids, some or all agents, etc.
alternatively, we sometimes also do a separate chat only repo or server etc if cross-team agent chat access worth it and don't bother with private / public just disable agents in code repo
have also done some other variants etc. bit of pain to init config, does help with reducing the agent clutter, improve chat security boundaries in case any keys or sensitive env were in any chats if PII / sensitive data checker miss etc.
7 hours ago
Beyond "branding", I don't mind this general direction.
There absolutely should be a fool proof undefeatable mechanism that identifies or watermarks code that was completely LLM generated.
If you use LLMs, own it.
6 hours ago
"completely" LLM generated?
Hard boundaries there simply don't exist for most workflows, and I suspect if they did, it'd be at the expense of things ~nobody would want to give up.
an hour ago
you own the code, not the use of an LLM
7 hours ago
The issue comments concerned about IP theft are deeply ironic.
7 hours ago
Issue was closed with an robot-ai comment... Patetic...
6 hours ago
Wouldn't think I'd be cheering Antrophic decision, but this is excellent.
They probably were thinking about how that serves them as an ad, not about transparency, but still.
I say they should go one step further and somehow make it harder/inconvenient to turn it off (big tech is good at this already, so...); or, maybe, hide that option behind extra feature under premium subscription or something.
P.S. The comments are pure gold. They don't like they can't fake authorship and have the audacity to be indignant!
6 hours ago
As a Claude user this is just a benefit to me. Means I can grab the session and resume if I ever see a commit I want to jump back into, and Claude can read these sessions itself whenever I reference the commit, which helps a bunch.
It might come with advertising benefits for them but expect it’s mostly just because it helps their tools work and that benefits everyone.
6 hours ago
Attribution should be opt-in, but they already support it. Via CLAUDE.md where you can specify how exactly AI contribution should be documented. Relying on whatever convention your vendor will establish isn‘t a good idea. Vendors are replaced, project conventions stay, so it‘s better to state your expectations in writing, instead of assuming that someone guesses them right and maintains conformance forever.
5 hours ago
I needed a reason to look for a different Harness. This could be it
an hour ago
Is this not an avenue to distributed distillation? Wonder how Ant squares that circle
6 hours ago
Maybe using git notes for the conversation or conversation summary is better.
an hour ago
I don't think git-notes has the same history / change tracking. Use a .sessions dir or similar. I'm working towards adding them to my knowledge base so as not to pollute my git repo
7 hours ago
I cancelled my subscription over this [1].
6 hours ago
Interesting. Can you elaborate on why you feel strongly about this? It's easily removable--I don't think your characterization that it "forces" attribution is correct, it just defaults it.
6 hours ago
Indeed, the disclaiming of it being human-coded isn't the problem with their commit messages, them using it as a growth hack mechanism is. BTW to say it's attributed to Claude, I don't give that much importance, but I think it's useful to other coders to know what model was used. A simple assisted by AI would mostly handle the plaigiarism problem, because Claude's training data didn't come from Claude.
7 hours ago
who cares?
7 hours ago
Some people who are in this thread might be interested in that view. A little more context would have helped it though I agree.
7 hours ago
I really hate this attribution nonsense ...
On one hand I guess it is fine to automatically tag that the commit was AI-generated. On the other hand, this will happen even if you audit every line and add your own changes too, which means the attribution is misleading.
6 hours ago
It’s not meant for saying “this change was done by Claude” it’s meant to connect commits back to the session. Makes it way easier to jump back into a follow up change between sessions as the agent can reload parts of the context.
Anyone thinking this is about tagging AI generated changes and not just making the experience in Claude better is missing the point of the feature.
7 hours ago
Having only 1 of the token sellers do this is not very helpful either. Its just free branding & advertising for Misanthropic.
an hour ago
> Misanthropic
How have I not heard this one before
5 hours ago
A lot of people say this is a reasonable feature, and I agree (I would strongly consider having it on), but that's not the defense they think it is.
- Having the feature available seems good.
- Having the feature default on is debatable, but not outside the realm of possibility.
- Having the feature default on, without any kind of release notes that say that it happens and link to the option to disable it is clownshoes "bring back the ghost of Steve Jobs to yell at the product team" type behavior.
6 hours ago
Everyone loves AI so much that they want to hide the fact that they're using AI.
7 hours ago
Also codex cloud and others.
6 hours ago
For a good chunk of my AI coding work, I make my own commits. I add Assisited-by: to them. I glance at the AI commit messages, and though I usually come up with my own messages sometimes I paraphrase. This would just make it a bit more annoying to review the AI commit messages, though I could hide it.
7 hours ago
Anthropic is right here. You need to clearly define what commits are AI authored or you are conspiring to commit copyfraud.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyfraud
AI does not enjoy copyright protection. Pretending you created something written by AI is copyfraud.
7 hours ago
> AI does not enjoy copyright protection. Pretending you created something written by AI is copyfraud.
Which court has made a ruling on this? The only decision I'm aware of was that some Gen-AI artwork couldn't be copyrightable if it was made without substantial input, direction, and scrutiny.
7 hours ago
Once again, I will point you to the law,
https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/LSB10922
You did not write it, the AI did. Either the work cannot be copyright, or the AI owner (Anthropic) owns the code. Not you. In no case can you own code you didn't write. You guys keep arguing that it enjoys copyright protection without realizing this part. There is no "work-for-hire" default in the law for AI even if it did enjoy copyright. You don't own it. And I am pointing out neither should Anthropic.
6 hours ago
That's an opinion from the US copyright office, not a law or a decision made in court. I think it remains to be seen to what extent using generative AI affects the practical application of copyright in larger projects: the office holds that the human-contributed parts still qualify for copyright, and I think there are a variety of possible interpretations and arguments that could effectively allow a largely AI-generated codebase to still be protected by copyright, even if technically big sections of it are not (in a similar manner as e.g. maps are protected, even if the underlying facts are not).
(I would also argue whether it matters in practice the other way: if something was AI generated, it is in principle cheap for someone else to generate it separately anyway: if you're wanting to copy AI generated code then there's probably some part of the ideas in it that are valuable beyond what the AI can output on its own)
(Also, this uncertainty does still mean that it's probably prudent to record which parts of your software are generated and which are not: it's a conceivable outcome that some company winds up in court and manages to argue that the human-generated parts are still covered under copyright, but are unable to point to which parts those are and therefore lose it entirely)
7 hours ago
Yes, that's exactly what they were talking about. It says right in that page that sufficient changes can allow them to copyright the work, and it also says that their decision can be challenged.
6 hours ago
And once again, you guys make this claim without reading the law.
>several provisions of the Copyright Act imply that it uses the word "author" only to refer to human beings, including provisions (1) vesting copyright ownership "initially in the author"; (2) limiting copyright duration to 70 years after "the author's death"; (3) providing for inheritance of certain rights by the author's "widow or widower" or "surviving children or grandchildren"; (4) requiring a signature to transfer copyright ownership; (5) extending protection to unpublished works regardless of the author's "nationality or domicile"; and (6) defining a "joint work" based on the authors' "intention" to merge their contributions in a certain way.
The law clearly, definitively, is talking about human authorship and nothing else. You are basing this concept that you can copyright AI written code on a law change that has not happened. It is very very unlikely that a law change can/will ever happen, because copyright law in particular is enshrined in international treaties like the 140 year old Berne Convention. This is a major reason why I was very much opposed to the TPP. Every new international copyright treaty is just more cement, making it completely unchangable. If you want to change this law, it will require cooperation from most of the countries in the world to do it.
6 hours ago
To be clear, the Copyright Office is providing guidance and a particular (respected) interpretation of the law. Their opinions do influence courts, but they do not constitute law themselves.
7 hours ago
Interesting. According to the definition in that Wikipedia link, "copyfraud" is claiming copyright on public domain content.
Does this mean a company can take code from an open source project that used AI, put it into their closed source code, potentially modify it, all without attribution?
7 hours ago
Yes, that's exactly what it means. AI works are public domain by default. Copyright law requires the work is created with human creativity. The essential piece is to clearly define what parts are AI generated vs human written. This is an obligation placed on you by the courts, and if you don't do it, it becomes very very hard to argue that you wrote that code.
7 hours ago
There is of course, transformative use, and the slew of software packages we used to depend on without acknowledging the original maintainers on every commit.
an hour ago
Very much agree, and per https://www.jvt.me/posts/2026/02/25/llm-attribute/ there are a number of other benefits to attributing correctly - you know what parts of the code may be "tainted" by AI-generated code, and allow yourself to clarify to the reader what parts are AI and what are not
6 hours ago
That’s just your opinion on your own characterisation.
7 hours ago
If anthropic believes in giving credit, why not give credit to all the content they stole?
7 hours ago
I don't disagree with you on this. However, it is clear to me that a lot of copyfraud is happening in this industry right now. Just look at all the github repos with a) a licnese.txt and b) a claude.md in the repo.
3 hours ago
Does Microsoft windows give credits to every developer who ever worked on it?
7 hours ago
Copyright shouldn't exist and AI (especially open weight models) is accelerationism to this point
6 hours ago
Good way to find engineers who don’t know what they are doing and just fire them, from examining their sessions.
7 hours ago
Luckily I've cancelled my subscription.