Corporate profits hit highest share since WWII, as worker payouts wilt

80 pointsposted 6 hours ago
by marojejian

11 Comments

marojejian

6 hours ago

free w/ signup, but here's the archive anyhow: https://archive.is/wU0s9

Pretty impressive long-term charts, and dramatic surge in the last years. Of course there are lot of other relevant details (e.g. more people own capital, and this is pre-tax numbers). But overall this seems pretty consistent with the story Piketty tells in Capital in the Twenty-First Century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_in_the_Twenty-First_Ce...

kerblang

an hour ago

Are corporate profits actually at a peak, or just their percentage share of national profit (per the article)? Not in denial about the wealth gap, just wondering where profit growth is coming from.

nojvek

4 hours ago

Automation can’t be taxed. Servers consuming electricity in data centers to generate what the next ad someone will click isn’t the same as paying employee salary. It’s not taxed.

So Trump cuts tax on the rich, and the rich cut out human workers or depress their pay.

The debt will have to be reckoned with if the govt ain’t getting their share to build infrastructure.

On the other hand US has the highest participation of people who own stock.

Unlike China, where the median Chinese doesn’t benefit from growth of state run companies.

chradams

2 hours ago

Corporate taxes can tax corporate revenue or profits. Stock buybacks and dividends can be regulated or outlawed. If we don't want to force corporations to pay with more equality across ranks, we can take larger portions of revenue or profit and then fund social safety nets and welfare that are targeted at those that corporations choose not to give raises to.

There are plenty of systems answers, power just doesn't care, and neither do voter bases.

JumpCrisscross

2 hours ago

> Automation can’t be taxed

Of course it can. Like, for AI, put a surtax on wattage consumed and use it to extend and expand unemployment insurance.

teeray

2 hours ago

Tokens are probably the easiest tax target since that is also the unit of billing.

conception

2 hours ago

The participation rate in the stock market may be high, but the ownership rate is effectively the top 10% own the entire market.

triceratops

3 hours ago

> Automation can’t be taxed.

Sure it can. Take shares in companies. Put them into a sovereign wealth fund.

cactacea

3 hours ago

Well that just sounds like communism with extra steps.

triceratops

3 hours ago

What's your point? I only showed a way to tax automation. The labels are left as an exercise for the reader.