Ask HN: Why are Claude models so verbose?

2 pointsposted 8 hours ago
by JacobWolf

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6 Comments

thingstohappy

8 hours ago

I think there are a few nuances here:

1. On the ignore instructions point: using Cursor with Claude as the underlying model is quite different from using Claude directly through Claude Code. The agent/tooling layer can have a pretty big impact on the behavior.

2. On verbosity: IMO, Claude's default writing style tends to be more verbose than GPT's. GPT models are generally more concise when coding, while Claude often explains more. That said, I think this can be mitigated quite a bit by how you harness the model.

3. I agree that it’s worth trying new models. The pace of AI development is so fast that models can change significantly in a short time. But I’d also suggest trying different agent tools rather than sticking with Cursor alone. The tooling and agent loop can make a big difference too.

JacobWolf

7 hours ago

I churned off of Cursor for about a year to use Claude Code from spring 2025 to spring 2026 and I noticed it’d regularly ignore CLAUDE.md & Claude rules. It’s part of why I came back to Cursor. The Cursor harness has produced more reliable results, but the excessive verbosity is still pretty common across harnesses, in my experience.

_barban_

4 hours ago

Consider that verbosity on Token Generation is negligible with respect to the tokens consumed for the prompt and the context, so I think it is just a writing style than can be appreciated or not (to me it is not so bad).

haute_cuisine

4 hours ago

Why would LLMs be concise and to the point? There is no truth in these machines.

p.s. You've just discovered a load bearing seam with your dossier and have a right to push back on this.

danielovichdk

8 hours ago

Because models that chat to themselves generate more tokens, hence more money is spent.

Easy

onion2k

7 hours ago

That's an over-simplification though, because models that waste tokens will lose users. Efficiency is a great marketing feature.