@tox9cc - FYI you're flagged as dead. Not sure why, your past comments all seem valuable to the discussions.

When I hit a problem like that, I do most myself and just get the AI to do the bits where I'd normally get stuck because of boredom. Bits that I can't be bothered to write as they're easy but laborious.

And then get it to review the code, where it'll pickup a few edge cases.

But I don't really get the attitude that we shouldn't write code anymore, for me it's often quicker to write the code than to explain to the AI how to write it.

Sometimes when I'm.sitting there watching it chug away for 5 minutes over what should be a three line change, I'll just stop it and do it myself, and then at that point I'll often take over completely for a while.

AI speeds up my personal work a bit, because I don't use it for anything that isn't effective. I am in control of how much or little I use it.

Where I get slowed down by AI is when working with others. My current main gig is one of the places where they are pushing everyone to use AI for everything, and tying compensation to how much you use it. So people have stopped talking - they paste AI responses back and forth at each other. It is bizarre, dysfunctional, and dystopian, and I am so looking forward to the end of this contract.

You need to operate at a higher level of abstraction.

The thing is its all a sliding spectrum between vibe-coding and manually coding and there are trade-offs at every point

On one end is huge productivity but bad quality

The other end is normal productivity but good quality

I land closer to the manual coding side with agents, its more productive but I do have to heavily micromanage them

I would guess around 1.3-1.5x productivity