jubilanti
6 hours ago
Just going to leave this graph of reserves over time here: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/US...
fn-mote
6 hours ago
Read it for yourself.
To me this shows massive withdrawals in 2021-2022 and again in the last two years.
mort96
6 hours ago
It shows massive withdrawals mainly in 2022 after lighter withdrawals in 2021, before a period of refilling; and then even more rapid withdrawals in 2026.
I believe 2021 and some of 2022 was a response to inflation from COVID, and 2022 was obviously also the year Russian oil went off the market. 2026 is the Iran war.
lokar
6 hours ago
On the news they said it was not really meant to be drained and filled many times. Also, not expected to last as long as it has.
spiderfarmer
6 hours ago
It’s a political oil reserve at this point.
flutas
6 hours ago
Never mind this
> On March 19, 2020, President Donald Trump directed the Department of Energy to fill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to maximum capacity, when oil was priced at $24 per barrel. This directive was given to help support domestic oil producers given the impending economic collapse from COVID-19 and extreme drops in international oil markets. However, funding was blocked by Congress, with Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer stating that Democrats had blocked a "bailout for big oil".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Petroleum_Reserve_(U...
throw0101a
5 hours ago
> Never mind this
In March 2020 the SPR was at 640 Mbarrels (out of 714M). What was blocked was a US$ 3B line item out of a US$ 2T stimulus budget what would have topped things up to the 714M (a purchase of ~77M).
In 2022, ~340Mbarrels (180+30+40+45+20+10+15) were released due to the effects of Russia's invasion of Ukraine (and we still can crazy-high inflation due to energy (and food) prices):
* https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/2024/mar/why-have-...
To date in 2026, 172M have been released due to the Iran war:
* https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/28/us-strategic-petroleum-reser...
Having 77M more would not have been a bad thing, but I'm (a) curious how much it would it would have made a difference now (6 years later), and/or (b) if there was more earlier on if more would have been released in previous events (because more was available to be release: a 'self-fullfillng prophecy' of sorts).
pingou
6 hours ago
Not sure why you’re being downvoted. It seems like it would have been a sensible time to buy back then with such a low price, although of course government spending was already very high due to COVID.
jubilanti
6 hours ago
> Not sure why you’re being downvoted
The only consistent position on US politics that won't get you downvoted on HN is "both parties are dumb."
readthenotes1
2 hours ago
We demand the truth?
swed420
5 hours ago
> The only consistent position on US politics that won't get you downvoted on HN is "both parties are dumb."
As it should be, because they are. Well, not dumb, but both are complicit and essentially operate as a uniparty for capital interests.
blooalien
2 hours ago
> As it should be, because they are. Well, not dumb, but both are complicit and essentially operate as a uniparty for capital interests.
One party is statistically much "dumber" than the other overall, but yeah... Most all of the clowns in D.C. really don't give a rat's ass about anything beyond filling their pockets at the expense of the American people and pushing their (not "We the People") particular individual pet agendas (at the expense of anyone that gets in the way) and anyone that trusts a single damned one of 'em is a gullible fool that shouldn't be trusted to vote.
They're all a buncha professional crooks pretending to rule a nation while they actively corrupt every single value this nation's supposedly supposed to stand for. We need to fire 'em all (or jail, depending on circumstances) and hire all new and better folks (ones who actually care about this nation and it's people) to fill their jobs. Same goes for the corporations that basically own them these days.
jubilanti
6 hours ago
It was a missed opportunity to top it off from about 625m to 714m barrels. But the Trump administration really shot themselves in the foot by loudly championing it as a bailout for big oil. Trump didn't care about the reserve, he cared about the oil industry. A lot of money was going out the door.
flutas
6 hours ago
> But the Trump administration really shot themselves in the foot by loudly championing it as a bailout for big oil.
For all I hate about him and his admin, the trump admin didn't call it a "bailout" once that I can find (even with the help of AI). The only quotes I can find are Chuck Schumer / Democrats calling it that and no direct quote of Trump saying it. In fact this is what I can find:
> On March 13, 2020, Trump described it as purchasing crude oil “at a very good price.” He said filling the reserve would save taxpayers money while also “helping our oil industry.”
> On April 3, a reporter directly asked Trump whether oil executives had requested a bailout. Trump answered: “No, they didn’t ask for a bailout. No.”
> The “bailout for big oil” wording came from Chuck Schumer and Senate Democrats, not Trump. Schumer’s official March 25 press release claimed that the final CARES Act had: “Eliminated $3 billion bailout for big oil.”
Would love to be proven wrong here.
> Trump didn't care about the reserve, he cared about the oil industry.
Does that even make a difference?
Either way it's filling the reserve for instances exactly like this, and was blocked by politicians to try and "win" for their party at the expense of every US citizen.
throw0101a
10 minutes ago
> For all I hate about him and his admin, the trump admin didn't call it a "bailout" once that I can find (even with the help of AI).
Trump called it help for the struggling oil industry:
> "We're going to fill it right to the top," Trump said Friday in a wide-ranging news conference at the White House. He said it will save taxpayers "billions and billions of dollars" while helping an industry that's been reeling.
[…]
> There have been reports[1] the Trump administration may be willing to help the oil industry in other ways. For example, the White House could reduce federal royalties for oil pumped on government land or offshore. The administration could also offer low-interest government-backed loans.
* https://www.npr.org/2020/03/14/815039722/trump-steps-in-to-h...
As a reminder, in April 2020 oil (futures) prices went negative:
* https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/100615/will-...
wasabi991011
5 hours ago
> He said filling the reserve would save taxpayers money while also “helping our oil industry.”
Didn't use the word "bailout", of course, but imo the meaning is pretty similar
flutas
5 hours ago
to me helping != bailout
helping = just that, helping. They might be hurting, but they aren't going to die without the help.
bailout = (as wikipedia defines it) "the provision of financial help to a corporation or country which otherwise would be on the brink of bankruptcy."
financetechbro
3 hours ago
I think playing this word game for stuff that trumpf says is not a fruitful exercise (applies to most politicians I guess). He doesn’t have to use the word bailout for it to be a bailout
khriss
6 hours ago
> Does that even make a difference?
Yes, intent matters. As an example, Trump and Republicans spent all of Biden's term complaining about the direct relief provided to the common people.
LightBug1
6 hours ago
I'm no fan of Mr Schumer. However, perhaps he was of the opinion that US-Israel wouldn't have been as stupid as they were to go war with Iran in the way that they did.