tcumulus
a day ago
The Netherlands might not have the most extensive or fast rail network, but it's frequencies are pretty much unbeatable. In some places it runs more as a metro network than a heavy rail one. This visualisation shows that nicely!
tnolet
a day ago
Netherlands is ninth on this list by the UN, but that includes (even tinier) countries like Monaco, Luxemburg and Belgium.
So I guess the NL is about top 5-ish in the world density wise
https://w3.unece.org/pxweb/en/CountryRanking?IndicatorCode=4...
mrmrcoleman
21 hours ago
The Monaco number is a little unintuitive - it has one line running through it, but the principality's tiny physical footprint makes it look railway dense on that chart
Vinnl
21 hours ago
And as far as delays go, I believe it is (or was, last I looked) nr 3 in the world, after Japan and Switzerland.
Of course, Japan's trains are world-class, but at least those are widely recognised as such. The Dutch rail network is much denser than Switzerlands, but catches a lot of flak.
(Which is not to say that it can't or shouldn't be improved, but it's also good to recognise what's going well.)
NoLinkToMe
a day ago
Wasn't my experience, frequencies are fine but I don't think it's unbeatable at all. The default simulation is 50x speed by the way, perhaps that gave you the impression.
wickedsight
a day ago
> but I don't think it's unbeatable at all
Based on... What exactly? The Dutch rail network is already considered the busiest network in Europe. So I'm really interested what knowledge you bring that says that it could be busier if many experts say that the busiest trajectories (look at Amsterdam - Schiphol and Amsterdam - Utrecht, for example) are at max capacity already.
NoLinkToMe
a day ago
Japan beats Dutch train frequencies, hence it's not unbeatable.
And if you include metro rail there are plenty of more frequent rail systems including again Japan but also China, France, UK, Hong Kong, Singapore, South Korea.
retired
a day ago
Upgrading to full ERTMS can increase capacity on the Utrecht Amsterdam line. Longer platforms with longer trains. Reducing accessibility in the trains* for more seating. Less seats. Removing first class. Remove train crossing. Buy out NIMBIES. There is plenty you can do to increase passenger capacity on that line.
*) If you want to absolutely maximize passengers in a train you can reduce the number of toilets to one or switch to the peebag system the old trains had. And reduce the amount of wheelchair spots to the absolutely lawfully required amount. I’m not saying this is a good thing, just spinning some ideas to increase passenger capacity.
bo0tzz
a day ago
You're suggesting to _reduce_ accessibility?!
jorisboris
a day ago
If I remember correctly the Tokaido Shinkansen goes every 3-4 minutes. I think the frequency on the Utrecht-Amsterdam stretch is on average 5 minutes?
user
21 hours ago