Germany Sets New Six-Month Startup Record

45 pointsposted 3 days ago
by eigenspace

20 Comments

nottorp

2 days ago

Being Germany, that means it only takes six months to properly register a startup? :)

CodesInChaos

2 days ago

I really hope "EU Inc." will reduce the pain in that area.

egorfine

2 days ago

It may, but only for the incorporation step. All other pain points in Germany are yours to enjoy.

CodesInChaos

2 days ago

Yes, accounting/tax related stuff is still annoying. But there are a few more advantages:

* Employee share options are taxed when they sell the shares, not when issuing the option (regardless of strike price) nor when exercising it.

* Changes to the shareholder structure (e.g. raising capital) don't require visiting a notary

And I'm not sure if incorporating in a different EU country (while still looking just like a German EU Inc) would avoid some of the German pain points.

egorfine

15 hours ago

> there are a few more advantages

I'm pretty sure Germany is more than capable to negate all those. For instance it is inconceivable to imagine company law practiced in Germany without a notary speaking out loud the whole shebang.

CodesInChaos

10 hours ago

It's amusing how top law students become glorified narrators/voice actors.

Had to visit one of these every time we raised capital. He never did more than read the text aloud and perhaps correct a typo. I don't want to know how much the company paid for that privilege.

superze

a day ago

EU inc is what made me start believing, my idea is possible.

jstrebel

2 days ago

What do you think all those IT engineers who were made redundant in the last months are doing? Some of them might prefer founding a start-up to joblessness. It's not the first time that a job market crisis increases the rate of start-up registrations.

ant6n

2 days ago

Maybe more related to the possibility of boot strapping with random AI startups. German investors are pretty conservative.

Beijinger

2 days ago

No shit man. Their government high tech (!) VC fund rejected a high tech proposal from me (Medical devices), instead financed things like: https://www.mymuesli.com/

ant6n

2 days ago

Pretty much.

In Germany, innovation is defined and funded by grant agencies. The only projects that are deemed innovative are those that look like existing projects that are known to be innovative.

superze

a day ago

Austria is the same. Vienna is seriously a horrible in that regard.

throw1234567891

2 days ago

HTGF?

Beijinger

2 days ago

Yes. I actually also interviewed once for a job there.

Not the sharpest minds. More bureaucratic than entrepreneurial. At the time, none of the C-suite had ever run their own company. Zero international experience. Complete mediocrity.

cromka

a day ago

This deserves an article of its own, to be honest, I don't think people are aware of the incompetencies at this level. I am betting it's the same across EU.

CodesInChaos

2 days ago

They can't be as bad as KfW, right?

Beijinger

a day ago

Probably the same level, but I have no experience with KfW. But I could ask a buddy.

jasonvorhe

2 days ago

That's not even 1,5% of all companies founded annually.

alexbelyanin

2 days ago

The bootstrapping-without-VC point tracks with what I keep hearing from people building small AI-adjacent tools on their own. A few have told me directly they never considered raising – not because they couldn't, but because the traction they needed was small enough that a few months of paying customers did the job faster than a pitch deck would have.

That might also explain part of the discrepancy in this thread: a count like this only captures what registers as a "startup" in the first place. If AI is mostly lowering the cost of getting to a working, revenue-generating product solo, a meaningful chunk of that activity may never show up in a founder database – it just looks like someone quietly running a small profitable thing.

Curious whether anyone here started something in Germany this year without going near a grant or VC process – and if so, whether that was deliberate or just never came up.