malshe
11 hours ago
This is rich considering LLMs can't even write like an average person let alone famous authors
internetguy
9 hours ago
this is rich coming from the company that shreds books for training data
inigyou
4 hours ago
this is rich coming from the HN that was chastising them for violating copyright so they decided to stop violating copyright by destroying the original
classified
4 hours ago
Just another propaganda lie, implying that they could imitate any style.
qw2187
3 hours ago
The early models could to an extent. They removed it, probably with RL, because the feature reveals the inherent plagiarism.
That is also why ChatGPT blocks it now. The plagiarism is still there of course, just hidden.
kevin_thibedeau
an hour ago
They can imitate distinctive authors.
Eloissssss
10 hours ago
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11 hours ago
simianwords
8 hours ago
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Planktonne
6 hours ago
> LLMs can obviously write like anyone
This simply isn't true. An LLM can do a weak parody of a sufficiently-famous author, but they're extremely poor at sustained fiction writing even without trying to emulate a specific style.
Perfect grammar is only a small part of writing well.
mort96
7 hours ago
If they can "obviously write like anyone", why do they universally write like crap? Wouldn't the AI companies want them to write like someone who can write
serf
2 hours ago
Because llms can write like anyone in the same way that a type writer can; with a skilled human typist behind it.
You see a lot of crap for the same reason most code is crap - the human who did the thing sucked. Language models aren't magic, they're just a compiler that guarantees an output regardless of input quality and structure.
That doesn't mean much wrt to the capability of the model.
The world is filed with crap literature, movies, stories, and advertisements written by honest to God human professionals in their respective field, and we trained these things in that environment. It's not surprising to me that they need a nudge to get to Hemingway when the corpus average is presumably so low.
akoboldfrying
11 hours ago
Even LLMs from years ago could accurately mimic the style of any sufficiently famous author.
est
11 hours ago
LLMs from years ago weren't aligned to death like these days. It's hard to get rid of "AI smell" than years ago.
Bolwin
11 hours ago
Yeah and it's degraded significantly since then. Older llms were still mostly language focused and had a lot of latent knowledge about things like writing styles. Now it's crowded out in favor of agenetic work, programming etc.
gwern
10 hours ago
No, the latent knowledge is larger than ever, as verified by many benchmarks (and instances like people being shocked by truesight of obscure forum posters). This is 100% a chatbot personality/alignment/post-training thing.
conception
11 hours ago
I’m surprised no one has distilled a 4o model yet that’s really good at prose. No money from enterprise users I suppose.
andai
6 hours ago
The base models were really good at this. These days even the "base" models are full of awful synthetic data.
casey2
10 hours ago
At best it can use some of the same vocabulary. Often not even then.