Show HN: LLM control of deterministic coder – Sif 1.0 – LLMs as vibe coders

4 pointsposted 5 hours ago
by tmbird

6 Comments

arman-w-jalili

3 hours ago

This is the only way I can think llm could be used meaningfully in an enterprise environment, sooner or later this is going to be a category, separation of plan and execution, exactly like terraform, I’m exploring this for a while now, saw many interesting ideas in your repo,especially ‚learn’ , would love to connect, mine is rigorix written in rust.

tmbird

2 hours ago

Thanks for the comment! I agree, this seems like the inevitable future. I would argue that plan and execution is already separated, but between human and AI. This concept pushes that down a level. As a coding tool it is a good demonstration of the larger concept of probabilistic control of deterministic infrastructure. I too think it will become a category. I found Rigorix-oss on GitHub. Is it mainly to be used by human coders? Can an LLM use it? Mine started out as an LLM skill and developed into a MCP hybrid.

arman-w-jalili

36 minutes ago

yes, llm can use it via mcp, claude plans and writes the template , then handover to rigorix , it executes the DAG, without llm , completely deteministic

Arshad-Talpur

2 hours ago

The idea looks good, however I am of the opinion that LLMs cant be deterministic because of its inherent nature based on probablisitic mathematics, that is why we are building something to make AI agents auditable, if you want i can share it here its opensource

arman-w-jalili

35 minutes ago

i do agree, llm can not be deterministic, and that's why i sepereated the execution from planning in rigorix, execution phase is a deteministic DAG.would love to take a look at what you are doing, could you please share

tmbird

2 hours ago

I totally agree, you are correct, LLMs are inherently probabilistic. Sorry if I was confusing. Yes, please share.