And let's not forget:

> Agriculture accounts for about 80 percent of consumptive use in the United States

https://www.nifa.usda.gov/topics/water

Maybe if we're worried about running out of water, we should prioritize getting the water we do have to actual people. Could the problem be that we're trying to grow avocados in a literal desert? Nah, it's the dang citizens taking too many showers again.

Apple to oranges. The problem with Flint was lead in municipal pipes, and it has been fixed since forever ago. The majority of US water usage is agricultural and that is only really an issue west of the Mississippi. They are completely separate concerns supported by completely separate infrastructures.

Trouble is, there's a good chance that a large portion of the population will then be in favour of ending the war by escalating it to the point of flattening Iran. And that portion of the population has somewhat of a correlation with the political base of the current administration.

Dunno, Trump's war didn't make them give up on 'Death to America', but just gave it new life.

I'll throw it on my list, I've got a pretty big backlog right now.

Does anyone recall the Colonial Pipeline outage? They had their IT and OT networks segregated but without billing capacity nothing else mattered. You didn’t expect them to let the petrol flow for free, didja? All that it takes is for a “jump box” that spans or bridges supposedly segregated networks to be p0wned to permit compromise of the soft and chewy center.

I mean

Some of these municipal water plants in the US are independently operated by municipalities of awfully few people and even fewer resources to spare, often serving relatively vast areas…

It’s probably not how you or I would set things up—especially after many years of warnings and slick best practices guides-but I can sympathize with “if it’s not broken…”-style maintenance, especially at the local level.

These things have lifespans measured in decades, and budgetary cycles to match… and for all of CISA’s good work (on limited budgets, and with power that’s more persuasive than fearsome) [0], it seems hard to get all 148,000 [1] system operators to afford to care, much less to afford to fix things—much less to check their work.

[0] https://www.cisa.gov/topics/industrial-control-systems , and https://www.gao.gov/assets/d24106576.pdf for an idea of the staffing they’re doing it with…

[1] https://www.epa.gov/dwreginfo/information-about-public-water...

Yes. The last federal administration attempted to use CISA to encourage better cyber outcomes for water supply systems, and the water industry and Republican states sued over it. There is no will to fix this, only to push the liability elsewhere.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39243560

https://web.archive.org/web/20240409155326/https://www.awwa....

(cybersecurity practitioner is a component of my professional persona)

When will the public figure out that many IT exploits are the result of malpractice by developers and network adminstrators, and the businesses employing them? We're building and operating bridges that we know will collapse. Our products are nearly indefensible, literally - they can't realistically be secured except at great expense. We talk about the imbalance between costs of attack and defense; we made that imbalance.

The big LLM security threat is arguably just a revelation of the sh-ty work our field has accepted. Maybe we need to become actual engineers and invest in building proper, reliable, safe systems (which includes not being a dangerous risk for fraud, surveillance, and addiction). The 'anything goes' extreme disruption of many current SV corporate leaders and their technology is, in a way, a culmination of what they've always done.

The good news is that LLMs used properly might make proper engineering less expensive. The LLMs will more likely be used to make sh-t cheaper, so we can make more of it. Unless of course we take action.

CISA staff doesn’t do security patches and updates on local water supplies. You’re mixing a lot of stuff around there, none of it relevant to the discussion.

Good, we need to bolster our immigration enforcement. We have millions of illegal aliens who all need to be removed.

This conspiracy theory would make more sense if he wasn’t working so hard to divert blame away from Iran: https://www.politico.com/news/2026/07/31/trump-minnesota-wat...

> “I blame it on Minnesota because they are grossly incompetent,” Trump said at a cabinet meeting at Camp David on Friday, adding that Walz is “corrupt” and “Iran has bigger problems than worrying about Minnesota.” Asked later if he could rule out Iranian responsibility, Trump said, “ I don’t think there was an Iranian cyberattack. I think Minnesota ought to get its act together.”

Iran is beside the point. There is always a convenient bogeyman: China, Russia, North Korea… They sow discord between peoples to cover-up the ineptitude of domestic institutional assholes.

Either he knows and doesn't want to take the blame, or he doesn't know. I'm not sure which one is worse.

> he brought these attacks with his war

I'm no Trump supporter and this war was a big mistake, but justifying a nation poisoning another's civilian water supply is a bit upside down.

What's one more crime compared to all of the ones they've already committed?

We used to say that about some things before Snowden. And then there was Snowden.