Saber-toothed cats became inbred–and struggled to move–before they went extinct

49 pointsposted 10 hours ago
by gmays

16 Comments

litoE

6 hours ago

Wouldn't it make sense to assume that as the size of the population decreases, perhaps for external factors such as climate change, you are going to see more and more inbreeding?

chrisco255

7 hours ago

I think the study makes a giant presumptive leap to assume inbreeding was the cause of the higher-than-modern-human incidences of spinal tumors. It's irresponsible to assert this to be true instead of one of several possible explanations.

icegreentea2

7 hours ago

The study and the summary do not "assume" that the cause was inbreeding. They both assert that inbreeding could be a cause.

The article says "The team suspects these deformities and tumors indicate a lengthy history of inbreeding".

The paper abstract says "possibly because of an accumulation of expressed deleterious alleles that caused disturbances in developmental processes".

It's perfectly ok for scientists to write down and publish their speculation, as long as it's suffiently clear. I think it's quite clear in this case.

dimes

7 hours ago

An assertion without conclusive evidence is an assumption.

mythrwy

3 hours ago

They are not asserting a fact. They are asserting a possibility. Asserting a possibility is not an assumption.

Retr0id

7 hours ago

Seems like there's also a sampling bias, where the less able-bodied animals are more likely to get trapped in tar for scientists to study.

webdoodle

4 hours ago

Yep. For instance it could be from higher cosmic ray penetration into the earth during the last geomagnetic excursion.

NL807

5 hours ago

I was always puzzled how these cats actually fed. These sabre toots seem to get in the way of feeding and chewing.

t-3

2 hours ago

Cats don't really chew much anyway. If sabre-tooths have a rough tongue like other cats, they can probably scour flesh off bones with that with little need to work over the meat with their teeth.

zarflax

4 hours ago

I know I'd certainly be discouraged from feeding if I got the sabre toots.

thaumasiotes

4 hours ago

> These sabre toots seem to get in the way of feeding and chewing.

Why? They don't stop the mouth from closing. Presumably they don't stop it from opening either.

Compare walruses, elephants, and pigs.

King-Aaron

3 hours ago

> Compare walruses, elephants, and pigs.

Three animals that are well known for their apex predator hunting prowess

thaumasiotes

3 hours ago

Was the question more about ability to hunt, or ability to chew?

King-Aaron

3 hours ago

It goes hand-in-hand when you're comparing these kinds of animals.