Now Is the Time to Give LLMs Access to the ACM Digital Library

63 pointsposted 4 hours ago
by rbanffy
(cacm.acm.org)

20 Comments

fsmv

2 hours ago

How about we give humans access

m-hodges

an hour ago

Do humans not have access? https://dl.acm.org/openaccess

0xCE0

12 minutes ago

It seems that the "open access" is more marketing than something reality based they actually want to do.

https://dl.acm.org/openaccess ---> So how to access the content? Do I have to register or what? It the "open access" only for academic org's people or for everyone in the world?

https://dl.acm.org/ ---> Okay, nice simple search field without loggin in, but when you try to search something, you get thousands of results, even if you search specific author and the exact name of paper, you will get hundreds of results and the thing you want is buried somewhere on page 247. Filters of authors, years etc. are for Premium subscription. But just googling the thing finds the link to ACM... And want to get the actual PDF? Hope it says "free access"...

hmokiguess

18 minutes ago

So will LLMs have premium-tier access or basic-tier access?

dominotw

4 minutes ago

it is open like open in openai

juancn

2 hours ago

They probably already scraped it.

bezko

16 minutes ago

Something something Roko's basilisk

croes

an hour ago

Are they in the position to do that?

What about the authors?

ilaksh

2 hours ago

I don't want to be mean but if it's that hard to even recognize that LLMs are even a valid thing that could intersect with your business that you need some kind of campaign for it..

It's almost like, "don't hurt yourself unc, we will just search arxiv".

skywhopper

2 hours ago

TLDR: “we’re going to try to get money from LLM providers for access to our back catalog without getting permission from the authors or providing them with any share of the revenue”.

anticensor

2 hours ago

Scholarly article authors never expected royalty or permission for their scholarly works to be reused.

recursivedoubts

2 hours ago

the digital library should have always been open access

now it will be fodder for the slop machine

(i think that LLMs are going to wreck the peer review system for all but hard-experimental papers)

jerf

22 minutes ago

Since starting to use AIs seriously for search in the last 3 months I have read and referenced more published papers and academic primary sources then I think I did in the previous 5 years. They're fantastic for pointing at some claim and asking for the primary source for it, and then it does the work of following things through the layers of backref to the original, assuming it's online. Opening the library up to AI access makes it far more accessible and usable then it was before.

AIs, at least in their current form, make you more who ever you were. If you want snap, glib answers of dubious accuracy, they'll give them to you, more easily than ever before. If you want to dig back into primary sources and get the original content, they'll do that for you, more easily than ever before.

Can't speak to how the science infrastructure is going to handle them, but if it takes down the peer review system, which I think has been worthless for probably going on two decades and has just given the entire enterprise a false sense of assurance, it'll probably be a net gain in the end. Peer review is a source of more problems then it is solving right now.

ilaksh

2 hours ago

The real efficacy of the peer review system has always been somewhat questionable. That's a big reason why arxiv is so prominent.

jmount

2 hours ago

Came to say the same thing. Now remains the time to give the public access to the ACM digital library.