I Am Buiding BorgIOS to de-shitify the Internet

13 pointsposted 4 hours ago
by BorgIOS

17 Comments

goda90

4 hours ago

How would this network protect itself against spambots? Is there any sort of reputation system or barrier to entry that would be fine for an average user but annoying to bot operators?

BorgIOS

an hour ago

they have to buy shells from the node owners. Normal use is cheap spam expensive

nubinetwork

3 hours ago

What even is this? A Linux distro? A text messaging service? An openclaw harness? The readme is such a mess.

BorgIOS

an hour ago

No it is not OS like linux it is an OS for a network of computers. Does not care what OS the nodes are runing on

theamk

4 hours ago

despite having "OS" in the name, it has nothing to do with operating systems.

It's a local node.js app you run, which connects to their own mesh network, and somehow fetches the user data from the P2P mesh.

The P2P mesh is supposed to be uniform, "No masters, no workers, no special hardware" - but later in the README, they mention (1) users paying for storage and bandwidth (2) other users hosting the servers at their home using two different hardware classes. So it seems there is a pretty clear client/server distinction - even if the code is identical, the functions are not.

It is not clear how the data is stored - if I add a gigabyte of photos and then close the lid of my laptop, who is storing those? Do I choose specific nodes I trust, or is it assigned randomly? How much so I need to pay them for this? What if they turn off the server, do I lose all the data?

There is your usual "your identity is your keypair" deal, this time they recommend a USB stick for this, created from 24-word keyphrase. The good news is it makes the backup easy. The bad news is anytime you leave it unattended, someone else could copy your keys.

Just like with all other distributed systems of this sort, if you either lose your key (and have no backups), or someone else steals it, you lose control of your account forever and there is no way to recover.

There is its own cryptocurrency (of course!), which you can use to buy "Compute time, Storage, Streaming, Content from creators".

There is AI support of course, you can get paid for providing hardware which can run AI, and you can pay to run your queries on someone else's machines.

BorgIOS

an hour ago

It has everthing to do with operating systems. If provide services for security storage and compute. It makes a network look like one system to the user

BorgIOS

38 minutes ago

read the shardTree.js file if you want do know how your files is stored

jameskilton

3 hours ago

The state of the Internet today is a people problem, not a tech problem, and trying to throw more tech at it won't solve anything.

BorgIOS

an hour ago

It is a centralization problem...

jameskilton

31 minutes ago

Which is a people problem! The Internet is already a decentralized network. Anyone can hook up a computer to the Internet and others can immediately access it.

Centralization comes from people building bigger and bigger companies which control bigger percentages of hardware connected to the Internet. Consolidation is the natural order of things: competition is hard, so buy your competitor. If you want to solve / prevent it, then there needs to be incentives for companies to stay small, for there to be multiple companies, and for people to (begrudgingly) want more competition. None of this has anything to do with technology.

BorgIOS

21 minutes ago

Domain names - centralized. Cloud - centralized. Platforms - centralized. Cert Authorities - centralized. App Stores - centralized. Search - centralized.

nekusar

4 hours ago

And infested with shitcoin. Shitcoin was soo, early 2020s.

And its even worse, its Musk's dogecoin ilk.

What a way to kill a project before even starting it.

BorgIOS

an hour ago

It has nothing to do with shit coins or coins at all.. no blockchain

BorgIOS

an hour ago

I am looking for people that can read and understand code... not browse readme files :)

melvillain

2 hours ago

This is the Pied Piper decentralized internet idea from Silicon Valley. With about as much technical explanation as the show writers managed. I doubt Gilfoyle would use it.

BorgIOS

an hour ago

I guess you read all 20,000 lines of code. By the way it is made in waterloo :)

user

4 hours ago

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