Show HN: 18 Words

206 pointsposted 2 hours ago
by pompomsheep

85 Comments

Waterluvian

an hour ago

The timer makes it not enjoyable for me. It seems necessary to the game design and I’m not being negatively critical. Just sharing an additional perspective. I’ve been playing Zanagrams and the ability to hide the clock really improved my enjoyment of that game.

If I could magically get a feature by request, it would be to give me infinite time even if that meant my score came with an asterisk. Maybe just call it Relax Mode vs. Challenge Mode.

By the way: I really like the overall design of Zanagrams and 18 Words. These are small puzzle games with very simple, clean UIs. They work crisply and I've noticed you've been tidying up Zanagrams, adding minor features and settings. They have a very Classic Web feel to them. It's not like you're trying to get me to watch ads or subscribe to your newsletter or are just breadcrumbs to some for-profit thing. I like having a handful of very easy to pick up puzzles/toys when I need to fidget. They help keep me away from TikToks and Shorts.

Jcampuzano2

3 minutes ago

I'd probably say there instead of a Challenge Mode and a Relax Mode like you said, it could just be a combined mode where there is a timer but after it goes out it simply continues the game on Relax Mode.

Or alternatively every word still has the timer and then at the end if you finish, it tells you how many words you completed under the timer and gives you a score based on that.

And then maybe an option for those who don't want the timer to show at all, since maybe it adds a bit of pressure. You can have just a simple option that removes the timer entirely from view

wrsh07

20 minutes ago

I think Zach Gage (developer of excellent games including Really Bad Chess, Spelltower, etc) says on Adam Conover's podcast that for many people they have difficulty improving at a skill when they have time (or other) pressure

Thus, he always includes a relaxed mode to let someone practice without any stress. Incidentally, he realized that some people only ever play in the relaxed mode!

lucideer

8 minutes ago

Agree on the timer.

In one sense I really enjoy the timer up to the point that I lose, but it feels very unsatisfactory, especially if I lose early, & I'm acutely aware the difficulty level it's set at will be experienced radically differently by different players (to the exclusion of most I would imagine).

Having a timerless mode is very much needed as an option - there's no real risk of "cheating" with these cookie-based browser games anyway since I could just have infinite retries in a private tab if I felt like doing that.

sceptic123

13 minutes ago

Having a timer is maybe not so much the problem, but there's no reward here for doing early words quickly and no appreciation for the fact that difficulty is not linear. Would be nice if you could bank up some time for when harder ones come.

criddell

27 minutes ago

The timer kills this for me too.

Maybe if it counted up I would be less annoyed by it. I like how the NYT does it with their crossword app. If you complete it under some threshold you get a gold star but here's no upper limit on the time.

SwamyM

24 minutes ago

Yea, the timer is a little stressful though I understand the purpose/design behind it. I do like the suggestion of the no timer or a relaxed mode with.

PS anyone have any other fun, simple games like this and Zanagrams? I found https://maptap.gg/ recently and that also gives me the same Classic Web feeling that OP mentioned.

guidoism

22 minutes ago

Yeah screw the timer. I can't work under pressure like that when it comes to word games. Maybe other people will enjoy that, but not me.

sensecall

an hour ago

Yep, instead of feeling like a fun puzzle the timer just adds unnecessary pressure and gets me really annoyed.

Yajirobe

44 minutes ago

My guy that’s the whole point of the game. Otherwise it’s too easy

hnfong

40 minutes ago

You can still be competitive in "casual mode" using total time used to solve all the words.

latexr

38 minutes ago

Not everyone plays games for purposeless dumb challenges and difficulty. Games are supposed to be fun. Sometimes you just want to chill and engage the brain at a leisurely pace.

Waterluvian

37 minutes ago

Yeah. It's just a walk to the mailbox for my brain.

fbnlsr

25 minutes ago

English is not my native tongue. If I had a relaxed mode, that'd be awesome :)

encomiast

43 minutes ago

Same. Stopped after two words. Gave me the same feeling as taking a timed software developer screening.

latexr

35 minutes ago

> it would be to give me infinite time even if that meant my score came with an asterisk.

Or maybe don’t even keep score. That’s one of the features which makes be skip these daily games. Not every game needs to be a competition!

paisawalla

an hour ago

I would appreciate the timer not turning red. It's better to be surprised that time's up, rather than be surprised to know it's running out.

altmanaltman

18 minutes ago

Yeah I think this will be a bit too easy without a timer. But that ui does make it kind of intense, i forgot how to spell a basic word because i was thinking i only have 10 red seconds left

gopalakrishnans

an hour ago

Would be nice to have a ‘scramble!’ button so it makes it slightly easier when we get stuck

dirkc

36 minutes ago

I like the idea, but I didn't like losing after a few words. Now it might just be me not being good at losing, but who is?

Maybe the game can always progress to the next word with your total score being reduced. So if you get all within 30 seconds you score 18/18. That way everyone can play the whole game and share with their friends how far they got:

|X|o|X|X|X|o|o|o|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|o|X| 13/18

throwaway_ocr

an hour ago

Pretty frustrating when you find a word, but it's not THE word. Pretty fun otherwise.

functionmouse

an hour ago

tbh this should accept all dictionary matches

pompomsheep

an hour ago

Did you find a word that wasn't accepted you thought should be?

I do have another version where it accepts ANY word but I found it quite unsatisfying when I survived by randomly spamming combinations and finding a really obscure word.

So am currently running it against a 20,000 word wordlist instead of my larger 300,000 wordlist

happytoexplain

an hour ago

The third one in the archive wouldn't accept "tase" or "sate" for "seat".

maxweylandt

an hour ago

Going two days back in the archive, "egret" not allowed

elxr

39 minutes ago

"braze" is a very common word, especially if you like bicycles.

Definitely not any less valid or unsatisfying than "zebra".

pompomsheep

35 minutes ago

Ok yes all good examples. Have reverted back ot the large dictionary for now which accepts all these

paulluuk

37 minutes ago

Why not just only allow a single try, but accept any "real" word?

pompomsheep

34 minutes ago

Interesting idea but too many people mistype / mispell on first attempt (mostly me)

mhb

27 minutes ago

quite/quiet

fsckboy

11 minutes ago

Did you find a word that wasn't accepted you thought should be?

EARLS was not accepted, and I had already decided not to try REALS. (is there a rule against plurals?) what it was looking for was LASER which has a more tenuous claim on being a word than those two.

svantana

38 minutes ago

the obvious solution is to not use the words that have an obscure word as anagram. I failed on 'target' because I went for 'regatta'.

dahart

28 minutes ago

> I failed on ‘target’ because I went for ‘regatta’.

Given that those two don’t have the same letters, isn’t that the expected outcome?

mjdv

31 minutes ago

That seems only fair. ;-)

IAmGraydon

an hour ago

300,000? The Oxford dictionary only contains 171,000!

echoangle

40 minutes ago

I guess the wordlist with 300k contains all the different forms a word can have while the 171k count is only the base words.

pompomsheep

39 minutes ago

Haha yeah the 300k list contains so really obscure stuff

ecshafer

8 minutes ago

I got the word BAITH on like turn 5, and I only chose that because I couldn't figure anything out. I thought it was a nonsense word. But mixing in a scottish slang word in the easy section was a surprise.

nathell

2 minutes ago

I guess HABIT was the expected one here.

NooneAtAll3

31 minutes ago

I can understand the clock running out meaning a loss - but I still want to play the rest of the words? how do I do that? I don't think they are accessible anymore

wrsh07

17 minutes ago

A continue that let's you keep playing would be fun. Or maybe different modes (eg hard vs normal)

bspammer

26 minutes ago

Clear your cookies for the site or open incognito mode. But I agree there's no reason not to let people continue and just mark where they ended "legitimately".

samiskin

an hour ago

Fun game though I wish it left more time for the longer words, also wish we could have the letters in one line and shuffle them

maccard

21 minutes ago

I like the time based ness. 30 seconds is plenty of time and one run a day is a nice change of pace from never ending feeds.

Good job, I got 15/18

maaaaattttt

an hour ago

This was harder than I thought it would be. It's pretty fun to play! May I suggest displaying the final result and/or ongoing progress as 18 circles/shapes that fill up depending on how far you made it?

pmarreck

an hour ago

I didn’t realize the word “crowd“ only had one vowel until I saw it scrambled!

maaaaattttt

an hour ago

And I didn't realize "audio" had only one consonant!

HelloUsername

32 minutes ago

When I didn't know the word I just mashed the given letters on the keyboard randomly, sometimes I got lucky with it

criddell

25 minutes ago

Maybe the game should limit the number of tries per word?

docheinestages

28 minutes ago

This could be a cool captcha challenge (without the timer).

arnab777

8 minutes ago

timer removed should be better

nathell

an hour ago

Could I have the source code so I can plug in the Polish word list? It would make a great training app for Scrabble.

pompomsheep

39 minutes ago

Yeah its just the single index.html file feel free to download it and adapt

pocksuppet

9 minutes ago

It's unobfuscated. Right click, view source, there it is.

jdthedisciple

43 minutes ago

You could also probably one-shot your own version of this using any SOTA LLM, it's not terribly complicated (but a nice game idea!).

binary0010

33 minutes ago

Just one shot in Claude if you have it or deepseek flash for free.

gwbas1c

an hour ago

Made it to 9 and then time ran out... I wish it showed me the word that I got stuck on! Argh!!!

nwsm

an hour ago

Fun! But disappointing if you lose early. Maybe let the player continue after failing and showing a final score out of 18.

asaix

an hour ago

Pretty cool idea. I think a calendar based UI to go through the archives would be more user friendly than what you have right now.

pompomsheep

an hour ago

Yeah for sure I agree just kept it simple for now but will improve if people like it

semiquaver

an hour ago

iPhone bug: double tapping on a letter zooms in the viewport with no way to zoom back out, permanently breaking the page.

Static2280

an hour ago

Something about not being able to shuffle the tiles makes this hard for me.

orliesaurus

an hour ago

Fun, that's it. New addiction after daily wordle unlocked

Vinnl

an hour ago

This is fun! Could use a short "how it works" blurb on the landing page though :)

pompomsheep

an hour ago

Thanks! I thought it was fun to throw people straight into the game without instructions but you think it too unclear?

Vinnl

an hour ago

I did get the first one straight away, so it's not too unclear, but it did induce a short moment of panic, which I'm not sure I'd categorise as fun :P

wbnns

28 minutes ago

Great game, well done

quasiperfectus

an hour ago

Embarrassed of where I failed (#8). Very cool game though!

al_borland

an hour ago

If it makes you feel better, I failed on #3. In my defense, I'm running on 2 hours of sleep.

aosmith

36 minutes ago

Nice, this is pretty fun!

mritchie712

an hour ago

great game, what do you think of adding shuffle?

jmkni

an hour ago

Ha fun little game :)

gigatexal

an hour ago

Fun game!

I got stuck on the word corner of all words. Ugh

upmind

an hour ago

what made you go with 18?

falcor84

28 minutes ago

Not the parent, but I just checked and it seems that all $iwords.com are taken for i<18

stavros

an hour ago

I lost on the third word because I couldn't for the life of me figure out what it was, and then I restarted and got to the 18th. I'd look at the letters and just know which word it was, it was pretty odd how hard I found it the first time around versus how easy it was the second.

I'm normally terrible at anagrams.