Same with the 'doing AI right' Netflix example for me. Showing me the same exact recommendations in each tray but in a different order isn't helping.

Now, personally I want AI to disappear, but music is one of the few areas where AI COULD be potentially useful. The reason I say this is because for music, the criterium should be whether the music is good or bad, not who made it. I still think humans are better than AI, but there were audio tracks fully AI generated which was not bad. It does not convince me into one of those humans who fell for the skynet trap and embraced AI, but I also can not say that all of AI is totally useless - just 99.9%.

Yep. And if you want to integrate AI into your products, like we are currently doing, you are best off just delivering features / products and concealing the fact it's "AI" instead of putting it front and centre. AI has a rather tarnished brand amongst many groups of people.

I'd say "entirely", not "partially". Flagged the article.

Remember to flag it, I've been doing this consistently with AI slopicles. Eventually we can build a social consensus around this and stop having to see them.

I've noticed this happening more and more! Mainly with restaurants! There's an indian place just down the street from my place with a menu composed of entirely (badly) AI generated curry pictures in the window. It turns everyone off eating there because it feels like they're somehow lying about what they sell. I get that curry is probably hard to photograph unprofessionally and still make it look appetizing, but I would've preferred

    Vindaloo [price]
    [short description]

    Vindaloo [price]              |red curdled horror|
    [emoji riddled description]   |in a weird bowl   |

Agreed. But it's also indicating the current crop of AI generates certain patterns that are detectable.

What if it advances to a point where people can't? Chances are that's anywhere between "we're already past that point" and "could be a decade or more away" depending on the type of work.

Imho AI is ultimately just a tool. Use where it improves things, avoid where it doesn't. Right now companies seem to try & shove it everywhere. Which clearly isn't working.

AI as a term has always been a marketing tool aimed more at investors and executives than users.

> Soon - and even now - there are people getting away with using it that you guys can’t detect.

Sure, but that seems largely irrelevant to what's being discussed here.

The public in general is anti-AI, so any marketeer thinking that associating AI with their brand is a positive is misreading the room, and any thinking that the public are unable to detect it most of the time, especially in something like a video, are just wrong.

Is that going to change - will AI-generated content become harder to detect? Sure, but "we know the public hate this, but we can con them" doesn't really sound like a recipe for success. In a world increasingly awash with AI generated content, it's easy to predict that human-generated content and interaction is going to be increasingly valued, and smart companies will realize this.

> Do HN luddites realize the technology is here to stay?

> Soon - and even now - there are people getting away with using it that you guys can’t detect.

It's very strange to me that this is the pro-AI argument. It's not that things will be better, its that they can't be fought effectively.

The inventors of the printing press and the steam engine and the internet--whatever parallel you want--had a vision of improvement, making things better. AI proponents seem to want to make things worse, gleefully, but not be criticised for it.

Even if you're completely correct, that's not a good starting point.

Strong disagreement on this one, I think the coverage has proven that the current crop if anti-LLM sentiment is a much bigger thing then whatever is happening on this website.

In the case of AI generated imagery, maybe it will get to the point where people can't tell just by looking at it. If it does, at what cost? It seems to me that token cost is rising, I can't help but wonder if hiring an illustrator might end up being less expensive in the long run.

Consumers and gamers are already alienated. If the price of RAM keeps going up I'm not sure much technology will actually be here to stay. What's the point of AI "art" anyway if everyone needs $10,000 devices to interact with the content? AI isn't going to raise wages, it's just going to enable people to produce more for the same wage.

Do HN luddites realize the technology is here to stay?

Oh, I get that. LLMs are here to stay, like pyramid and Ponzi schemes, like Bitcoin and NFTs. It will be here until it isn't or we aren't. (And it just may help with that last.)

> Soon - and even now - there are people getting away with using it that you guys can’t detect.

hope this isnt some smartass selfrefretial joke

You guys want something real to bitch about?

Look no further than the censorship in this thread! Why did mods delete half the replies and then ban the account?

You heard it from Tupac - this site has bigger problems than AI

LLMs are here to stay and I'm using them daily out of necessity and out of convenience too. I'm paying money for it too. It is a useful tech. Still, I hate it in general and the sociopaths promoting it in particular, and I foresee a great deal of issues for humanity because of that. Not catastrophic, just boringly bad. Like many humans going broke and jobless (booooring), or humans losing entire activities they actually liked to do to robots (booooring). It's sarcasm, if you didn't get it btw. I feel like I need to spell out a lot of things explicitly nowadays.

Like for example a lot of legitimate and useful companies are completely dependent on the advertisement, which is a net negative absolutely vile and disgusting invention. But we all collectively picked option to defect, and not because we are bad humans, and are paying for that decision collectively too.

> Including young illustrators on Twitter with a whole audience convinced they are drawing by hand.

that's called being a grifter not an illustrator